Tactical question.....UPDATED
10-21-2007, 01:29 PM
#12
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RE: Tactical question.....
Catch them IN it......they aren't gonna be moving much at all today......Big weather system coming in tomorrow though...
I just don't want to run them out of their bedding area all together.....If I bump the big guy out of there....who knows where he will end up.
I just don't want to run them out of their bedding area all together.....If I bump the big guy out of there....who knows where he will end up.
10-21-2007, 02:01 PM
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RE: Tactical question.....
I'd approach this with 2 options.
1. Get aggressive and go in stalking very carefully. But I wouldnt do it without a climber on my back. Mature bucks will and do almost always come back to their bedding areas to make sure all is ok... so to speak..if the get bumped... I you get the shot while stalking great! if not and you bump one.. set up your stand right where you bumped them or move forward reading the escape route and set up where you think they would re-enter to come back to thier beds... they will comeback especially if your the first guy to bump him or them in there in a long time.... Now if they continue to get bumped in there, they will not tolerate this long adjust bedding spots...
Again, take as stand with you today on your back and hang it right on them if you dont get a shot. Be in that stand the rest of the day if the winds directions are good. If the winds are two strong, hang it and leave, come back 2 hour before daylight and get in it at least one hour before daybreak. If you have the right wind...you may easily kill one of the bucks or buck that you bumped..he come back I've seen the big guys do it a lot..
Second.. play it safe and creep in on the fringes of that bedding area and use a soft grunt call..small bucks.. type and spar.. challenging the bigger bucks turf. Those bucks have been banging heads at night garaunteed already and are establishing a hiearchy.. if he hears you he may just come out to take a look. If its reallly thick in there he will most likely work in slowly down wind of you.. if you try calling of course your winds need to die down somewhat for him to hear you.. thats why I would take rattling antlers...you can get real loud with them in high winds..
Third..stay home on the couch and watch the NFL
If it was me, I think I would look at the hour by hour forcast and see if the winds are going to die down somewhat and I would challenge his turf..by calling..
If I stalked in there I would definately pack a stand for the next morning hunt if you bump him out of a bed or them out thier beds..they will come backat least once.... your the only one hunting in there..
1. Get aggressive and go in stalking very carefully. But I wouldnt do it without a climber on my back. Mature bucks will and do almost always come back to their bedding areas to make sure all is ok... so to speak..if the get bumped... I you get the shot while stalking great! if not and you bump one.. set up your stand right where you bumped them or move forward reading the escape route and set up where you think they would re-enter to come back to thier beds... they will comeback especially if your the first guy to bump him or them in there in a long time.... Now if they continue to get bumped in there, they will not tolerate this long adjust bedding spots...
Again, take as stand with you today on your back and hang it right on them if you dont get a shot. Be in that stand the rest of the day if the winds directions are good. If the winds are two strong, hang it and leave, come back 2 hour before daylight and get in it at least one hour before daybreak. If you have the right wind...you may easily kill one of the bucks or buck that you bumped..he come back I've seen the big guys do it a lot..
Second.. play it safe and creep in on the fringes of that bedding area and use a soft grunt call..small bucks.. type and spar.. challenging the bigger bucks turf. Those bucks have been banging heads at night garaunteed already and are establishing a hiearchy.. if he hears you he may just come out to take a look. If its reallly thick in there he will most likely work in slowly down wind of you.. if you try calling of course your winds need to die down somewhat for him to hear you.. thats why I would take rattling antlers...you can get real loud with them in high winds..
Third..stay home on the couch and watch the NFL
If it was me, I think I would look at the hour by hour forcast and see if the winds are going to die down somewhat and I would challenge his turf..by calling..
If I stalked in there I would definately pack a stand for the next morning hunt if you bump him out of a bed or them out thier beds..they will come backat least once.... your the only one hunting in there..
10-21-2007, 02:08 PM
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RE: Tactical question.....
Thanks, Troy. I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to post that. I NEVER would have thought to bring my stand with me.....I am just nervous about jumping them out of there this close to the rut......thanks again.
10-21-2007, 02:18 PM
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RE: Tactical question.....
I guess i was confused on it your gonna stalk around in the bedding areas or just get in and sit for them to move. I'd do it forsure if your just gonna go it and sit and wait for them to move. Go in after them in their area is very daring............ I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!! I say go for it that could be a hell of a hunt and if you get one you know you earned it by stalking and go after then instead of waiting for them to come to you..... I say do it and post up some pics!!!!!!!!!
10-21-2007, 02:51 PM
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RE: Tactical question.....
If your gonna go, you better get your but out there soon.
I wish you luck my friend. I'm not giving you any advice, out of my field of expertise. I am not a stalker.
Just don't get
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I wish you luck my friend. I'm not giving you any advice, out of my field of expertise. I am not a stalker.
Just don't get
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10-21-2007, 07:27 PM
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RE: Tactical question..... UPDATE
Well, I decided to head in there. But I only hit the fringe of it, I didn't really get into where they are bedding at....
It was a worthwhile trip. I had some obligations this evening so I only hunted until 5, but I found some HOT black oaks....The deer are really pounding the acorns out of these trees, as well as the cut corn field next to it. So I hung on the edge hoping to catch them coming out of bedding into feed.....It was darn hot today, and I didn't expect them to move much anyway. But it's going to be cooler this week, so I'll sit there a couple evenings, wind permitting.
That spot is very simple to get to, and very low impact. It would suck in the morning as the deer would be in the corn, no way to get there w/out running them out, but for an evening stand....spot on.
It was a worthwhile trip. I had some obligations this evening so I only hunted until 5, but I found some HOT black oaks....The deer are really pounding the acorns out of these trees, as well as the cut corn field next to it. So I hung on the edge hoping to catch them coming out of bedding into feed.....It was darn hot today, and I didn't expect them to move much anyway. But it's going to be cooler this week, so I'll sit there a couple evenings, wind permitting.
That spot is very simple to get to, and very low impact. It would suck in the morning as the deer would be in the corn, no way to get there w/out running them out, but for an evening stand....spot on.