"Form" post.....never done this...
10-08-2007, 10:16 AM
#31
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Flushing Michigan
Posts: 2,355
RE: "Form" post.....never done this...
DO NOT shoot off the string!I've done both and I won't go back to shooting from the string for this reason. It's dangerous. Here's why.
With a short ATA bow (33" in my case), the string angle becomes big enough that the nock gets pushed slightly off the string at full draw. Twice I had arrows actually fall off the string at full draw - just milliseconds before I squeezed the release. I nearly dry fired my bow and it scared the ***** out of me. If you ever have to draw on a deer and let down and draw again, you're screwed unless you shoot a loop. Next time you shoot off the string try letting down and then look at how the nock is attached to the string. If the arrow didn't actually fall off the string, it's barely on there.
That won't happen with a string loop. With a loop, you can draw and let down all day and that arrow is still firmly on the string. No chance for the arrow to fall off which could cause a missed shot opportunity or worse yet a dry fire. I don't know why more people don't talk about this when discussing loop vs no loop.
10-08-2007, 10:18 AM
#32
Guest
Posts: n/a
RE: "Form" post.....never done this...
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Bigcountry......the reason my release is being gripped the way it is....is my fingers are BEHIND the "trigger"....so I don't shoot a hole in my wall!
Scott....what are you trying ot show me in that diagram? Just curious as to where things "should" be. Thanks!
To everyone else....(and especially you, Matt....I was waiting on your reply!)....thanks. I'm going to tinker AFTER deer season.
Bigcountry......the reason my release is being gripped the way it is....is my fingers are BEHIND the "trigger"....so I don't shoot a hole in my wall!
Scott....what are you trying ot show me in that diagram? Just curious as to where things "should" be. Thanks!
To everyone else....(and especially you, Matt....I was waiting on your reply!)....thanks. I'm going to tinker AFTER deer season.
10-08-2007, 10:20 AM
#33
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Butler, Pa (back home after all these years)
Posts: 920
RE: "Form" post.....never done this...
GMMAT do not stay in draw length denial like i did. I shot a 28 " for years. Once I got my head out of my rear and finally realized I am truly a 26 in draw My 3d scored went way up. I actully won money shoot htis year and a local techno hunt league and placed in the top 10 or 15 of our winter 3d league that Matt wins every freakin year. But it was the best thing I have done.............
[8D]
[8D]
10-08-2007, 10:23 AM
#34
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
Posts: 11,682
RE: "Form" post.....never done this...
ORIGINAL: gzg38b
DO NOT shoot off the string!I've done both and I won't go back to shooting from the string for this reason. It's dangerous. Here's why.
With a short ATA bow (33" in my case), the string angle becomes big enough that the nock gets pushed slightly off the string at full draw. Twice I had arrows actually fall off the string at full draw - just milliseconds before I squeezed the release. I nearly dry fired my bow and it scared the ***** out of me. If you ever have to draw on a deer and let down and draw again, you're screwed unless you shoot a loop. Next time you shoot off the string try letting down and then look at how the nock is attached to the string. If the arrow didn't actually fall off the string, it's barely on there.
That won't happen with a string loop. With a loop, you can draw and let down all day and that arrow is still firmly on the string. No chance for the arrow to fall off which could cause a missed shot opportunity or worse yet a dry fire. I don't know why more people don't talk about this when discussing loop vs no loop.
DO NOT shoot off the string!I've done both and I won't go back to shooting from the string for this reason. It's dangerous. Here's why.
With a short ATA bow (33" in my case), the string angle becomes big enough that the nock gets pushed slightly off the string at full draw. Twice I had arrows actually fall off the string at full draw - just milliseconds before I squeezed the release. I nearly dry fired my bow and it scared the ***** out of me. If you ever have to draw on a deer and let down and draw again, you're screwed unless you shoot a loop. Next time you shoot off the string try letting down and then look at how the nock is attached to the string. If the arrow didn't actually fall off the string, it's barely on there.
That won't happen with a string loop. With a loop, you can draw and let down all day and that arrow is still firmly on the string. No chance for the arrow to fall off which could cause a missed shot opportunity or worse yet a dry fire. I don't know why more people don't talk about this when discussing loop vs no loop.
I have shot of the string for ever, I can draw and let down all day
10-08-2007, 10:53 AM
#36
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Central IL
Posts: 215
RE: "Form" post.....never done this...
I am having the same problem as you GMMAT. My PSE Nova with a 29" draw length was perfect, however 29" on my Allegiance is a tad to long for me. My next bow will definately be a 28" or 28.5" I agree about not changing anything until after season.
10-08-2007, 11:00 AM
#37
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,288
RE: "Form" post.....never done this...
Besides what has already been minitioned, your gut is not big enough to ever be a really good shot Jeff, you need to eat more beans and taders!
Yes its true, some good scores are posted ever now and then by the skinny ones, but the consistent big score posters are packing around a pretty good size stabilizer out front!
Yes its true, some good scores are posted ever now and then by the skinny ones, but the consistent big score posters are packing around a pretty good size stabilizer out front!
10-08-2007, 11:16 AM
#39
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,288
RE: "Form" post.....never done this...
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO
LOL... I wonder if Matt / PA's scores will go down this winter then? [8D]
LOL... I wonder if Matt / PA's scores will go down this winter then? [8D]
10-08-2007, 11:23 AM
#40
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: The OH-IO
Posts: 7,103
RE: "Form" post.....never done this...
Scott....what are you trying ot show me in that diagram? Just curious as to where things "should" be. Thanks!
