Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
10-03-2007, 10:24 AM
#61
Boone & Crockett
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RE: Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d
The point is if Clarett..posted an article the was titled...My Way to the NFL for all Undergrads.... and then every undergrad said hey what a great idea and jumped on board where would we be??
Yes idiots are part of life..they do not become a force until they have followers.
Have I been denied access to lands because of the slob hunters who were there before me ..absolutley. Am I ready to condemn all hunters because of them..of course not.
ORIGINAL: Germ
How many yahoos do you see on the golf course?
Driving?
Teachers?
lawyer(all of them), J/K
Do we have some bad apples, yes, but we are no differnet than any other group.
IE
My favorite Buckeye
Clarett
How many yahoos do you see on the golf course?
Driving?
Teachers?
lawyer(all of them), J/K
Do we have some bad apples, yes, but we are no differnet than any other group.
IE
My favorite Buckeye
Clarett
Yes idiots are part of life..they do not become a force until they have followers.
Have I been denied access to lands because of the slob hunters who were there before me ..absolutley. Am I ready to condemn all hunters because of them..of course not.
10-03-2007, 10:28 AM
#62
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Southwest Ohio
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RE: Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
Could it be that the reason hunting is no longer viewed as a worthwhile tradition as often as it was in previous generations due to the fact that WE are so willing to change OUR ways to try to make everyone happy?
Perhaps we are our own worst enemy, but not in the way everyone is saying.
Germ iscorrect. There are ALWAYS going to be that "10%" in every walk of life. If we as the 90% do not let the truth be known, then how would anyone ever know that they are just the vocal minority? Don't be afraid to talk hunting. How else can others learn?
Perhaps we are our own worst enemy, but not in the way everyone is saying.
Germ iscorrect. There are ALWAYS going to be that "10%" in every walk of life. If we as the 90% do not let the truth be known, then how would anyone ever know that they are just the vocal minority? Don't be afraid to talk hunting. How else can others learn?
10-03-2007, 10:33 AM
#64
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
ORIGINAL: rybohunter
Regardless of how far a track job or what kind of shot was made, does(should) the story to a non-hunter always end with a quick clean kill?
Regardless of how far a track job or what kind of shot was made, does(should) the story to a non-hunter always end with a quick clean kill?
What has always shocked me is how so many think it is less humane to use a bow than a gun. I love getting to be the one to teach someone why the opposite is often true.
Edit: I think if any non-hunter read Matt/PA's post about finding his deer, they could not help but realize how important the animal and sport is to a true hunter. Especially the part about apologixing to the animal. That truly touched me as I have also had to do that, and it is always a relief to know that other hunters are as touched by taking a game animal as I am.
10-03-2007, 10:36 AM
#65
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
ORIGINAL: rybohunter
Regardless of how far a track job or what kind of shot was made, does(should) the story to a non-hunter always end with a quick clean kill?
Regardless of how far a track job or what kind of shot was made, does(should) the story to a non-hunter always end with a quick clean kill?
Stories are not always rosy, but if respect for the animal is always stressed...then we have accomplished something.
10-03-2007, 10:37 AM
#66
Dominant Buck
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RE: Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
GR8.....Here's some things (just a FEW) I've said this year.....after the season had started. I think it's really clear where I stand.
The last thing I want.....is someone thinkng I have anything but respect for these animals. When it comes right down to it.....I think people know.
“GR8:
I have NO qualms with your assessment. I deserve it. "Humbled" is not even the word for it. "Humiliated" comes to mind.....but it's at THEIR expense. I'd rather it be mine.”
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“I approached this season with a sense of bravado that I now regret. The events of this past week have humbled me beyond what I could imagine. That is what was eluded to.
If I ever look at a deer as anything other than a precious, precious opportunity.....I hope someone sets me straight.“
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“At 42yrs old....I've had this get to me like I didn't think possible (my last week+). Ihonestly was an emotional wreck last night and this morning. Why does this affect us, so????? If it ever stops.....well....I hope it never does. We need to be cognizant of the consequences and the POSSIBLE outcomes when we loose our arrows.
I want to thank all of you for NOT jumping down my throat....which would have been easy to do. I will NEVER, EVER take anything in this thing we do for granted, again. I'm a grown man....and I grew up a little more in the last 11 days.
Again.....I cant express how much you guys have helped me in the past.....but ESPECIALLY in these past days.
Thank you....”
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And in the thread with the rage results photo I posted…..
“No fanfare....post was to tell of the shot....and to show the results of the head.”
I have NO qualms with your assessment. I deserve it. "Humbled" is not even the word for it. "Humiliated" comes to mind.....but it's at THEIR expense. I'd rather it be mine.”
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“I approached this season with a sense of bravado that I now regret. The events of this past week have humbled me beyond what I could imagine. That is what was eluded to.
If I ever look at a deer as anything other than a precious, precious opportunity.....I hope someone sets me straight.“
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“At 42yrs old....I've had this get to me like I didn't think possible (my last week+). Ihonestly was an emotional wreck last night and this morning. Why does this affect us, so????? If it ever stops.....well....I hope it never does. We need to be cognizant of the consequences and the POSSIBLE outcomes when we loose our arrows.
I want to thank all of you for NOT jumping down my throat....which would have been easy to do. I will NEVER, EVER take anything in this thing we do for granted, again. I'm a grown man....and I grew up a little more in the last 11 days.
Again.....I cant express how much you guys have helped me in the past.....but ESPECIALLY in these past days.
Thank you....”
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And in the thread with the rage results photo I posted…..
“No fanfare....post was to tell of the shot....and to show the results of the head.”
10-03-2007, 10:39 AM
#67
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
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RE: Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
I am quite sure no one is advocating not talking about our activities....we need to spread the word, recruit more to this wonderful tradition! But, there are ways of portraying it....a slob hunter is kinda like porn, we all know it when we see it right?
10-03-2007, 10:40 AM
#68
Site Bouncer
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RE: Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
First of all.....I don't believe (for one second) the story written. It's just another outdoor writer trying to get another oneof hisarticles in print. I've heard that story (varying degrees of it) many many times.
It was written (and I suspect originally told) simply to stir the pot and if anything, further divide us as hunters. There will ALWAYS be slob hunters and ignorant people who don't know better and will shoot off their mouths like the fellow in the story....that's why it's so believable in the first place.
As mentioned you will find this type of behavior in all forms of sport, and it's just as disgusting no matter where it's applied.
We as hunters are not "shooting ourselves in the foot" at leastno more or lessthan any other past time, hobbyist or sportsman.
It was written (and I suspect originally told) simply to stir the pot and if anything, further divide us as hunters. There will ALWAYS be slob hunters and ignorant people who don't know better and will shoot off their mouths like the fellow in the story....that's why it's so believable in the first place.
As mentioned you will find this type of behavior in all forms of sport, and it's just as disgusting no matter where it's applied.
We as hunters are not "shooting ourselves in the foot" at leastno more or lessthan any other past time, hobbyist or sportsman.
10-03-2007, 10:48 AM
#70
Boone & Crockett
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RE: Shoot ourself in our own feet. No offense rob.
ORIGINAL: huntingson
Perfect... absolutely perfect!
ORIGINAL: JoeRE
....a slob hunter is kinda like porn, we all know it when we see it right?
....a slob hunter is kinda like porn, we all know it when we see it right?