Uh oh...Houston we have a problem
09-16-2007, 12:31 PM
#11
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
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RE: Uh oh...Houston we have a problem
Don't forget to tune the arrows, any wobbles at all will plane a broadhead. I never trust the "practice" heads. What arrows? Can you spin test them and reseat the inserts?
09-16-2007, 12:50 PM
#13
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
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RE: Uh oh...Houston we have a problem
ORIGINAL: Cougars09
I have been shooting VERY extensively lately. Got my new cam and split harness back on my bow yesterday. Got her timed, shooting bullets through paper. I'm driving tacks with field points and the Muzzy MX-3 practice head, I'm feeling good. I decide to try to shoot a regular hunting Muzzy MX-3. 20 yards, 4 inches low 3 inches left....try again, same result. Back up to 40 yards, 6 inches low, dead on left and right. My arrows spine perfectly, tearing bullets through paper. Tried it with the Predator vanes and Blazers, same result. Any recommendations? I don't want to move my sight just for broadheads. I'm still shooting alot of 3-d. For the first time in my life, I'm seriously considering a mechanical.
I have been shooting VERY extensively lately. Got my new cam and split harness back on my bow yesterday. Got her timed, shooting bullets through paper. I'm driving tacks with field points and the Muzzy MX-3 practice head, I'm feeling good. I decide to try to shoot a regular hunting Muzzy MX-3. 20 yards, 4 inches low 3 inches left....try again, same result. Back up to 40 yards, 6 inches low, dead on left and right. My arrows spine perfectly, tearing bullets through paper. Tried it with the Predator vanes and Blazers, same result. Any recommendations? I don't want to move my sight just for broadheads. I'm still shooting alot of 3-d. For the first time in my life, I'm seriously considering a mechanical.
My ROSS shoots BH(fixed) and field points the same. I am dialed in at 50 yds
09-16-2007, 12:59 PM
#14
Giant Nontypical
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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RE: Uh oh...Houston we have a problem
ORIGINAL: Germ
Funny
My ROSS shoots BH(fixed) and field points the same. I am dialed in at 50 yds
ORIGINAL: Cougars09
I have been shooting VERY extensively lately. Got my new cam and split harness back on my bow yesterday. Got her timed, shooting bullets through paper. I'm driving tacks with field points and the Muzzy MX-3 practice head, I'm feeling good. I decide to try to shoot a regular hunting Muzzy MX-3. 20 yards, 4 inches low 3 inches left....try again, same result. Back up to 40 yards, 6 inches low, dead on left and right. My arrows spine perfectly, tearing bullets through paper. Tried it with the Predator vanes and Blazers, same result. Any recommendations? I don't want to move my sight just for broadheads. I'm still shooting alot of 3-d. For the first time in my life, I'm seriously considering a mechanical.
I have been shooting VERY extensively lately. Got my new cam and split harness back on my bow yesterday. Got her timed, shooting bullets through paper. I'm driving tacks with field points and the Muzzy MX-3 practice head, I'm feeling good. I decide to try to shoot a regular hunting Muzzy MX-3. 20 yards, 4 inches low 3 inches left....try again, same result. Back up to 40 yards, 6 inches low, dead on left and right. My arrows spine perfectly, tearing bullets through paper. Tried it with the Predator vanes and Blazers, same result. Any recommendations? I don't want to move my sight just for broadheads. I'm still shooting alot of 3-d. For the first time in my life, I'm seriously considering a mechanical.
My ROSS shoots BH(fixed) and field points the same. I am dialed in at 50 yds
. Germ I gotrid of the 337 becauseit just didn't fit me all that well andwhen I started shooting a BT release and a T Handle, theback wall on the337 didn'tproduce a "clean" "crisp" release everytime. WE have a right handed Cardiac at the shop and I LOVE it. The back wall is the most solidI've seen on a single cam. It's quieter and more shock free than the 337 too. Rob, they spin true, I had 2 out of the dozen of CX Maxima 250's that didn't spin well. I marked those with a sharpie. Then from there I knit picked 4 that were absolutely perfect. Those are my hunting arrows.
I guess I'll be staying a little longer at the shop Monday paper tuning and getting these buggers flying right.
09-16-2007, 01:00 PM
#15
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HENDERSON KY USA
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RE: Uh oh...Houston we have a problem
Rob has a point,check all the broadhead tipped arrows and see if they impact the same.
If they don't,throw out the fliers.
Then start the tuning process.
Walk back is getting the centershot set so you are not concerned with anything but where the arrows hit left and right and yes,I do mean use the 20 yard pin at 20 and 40.Make sure you check the arrows left and right impactfrom a true vertical plane.
You can hold an arrow loosely by the nock end and hold it at the top arrow and see if the arrows are in line with the hanging arrow.
Broadhead tuning will set centershot but I preferto use walk back and then group and then I will check broadheads.
If they don't,throw out the fliers.
Then start the tuning process.
Walk back is getting the centershot set so you are not concerned with anything but where the arrows hit left and right and yes,I do mean use the 20 yard pin at 20 and 40.Make sure you check the arrows left and right impactfrom a true vertical plane.
You can hold an arrow loosely by the nock end and hold it at the top arrow and see if the arrows are in line with the hanging arrow.
Broadhead tuning will set centershot but I preferto use walk back and then group and then I will check broadheads.
09-16-2007, 01:22 PM
#17
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HENDERSON KY USA
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RE: Uh oh...Houston we have a problem
Make small adjustment to the rest.
Forget about paper at this point.You may have a torque issue or a slight spine issue.Get the broadheads flying true and then see if the paper is showing a good tear.
If it isn't,don't worry about it.It won't keep you from killing a deer.As long as it is shooting true and consistant.
I love paper but you really need to know how to read it and understand what is going on.
Paper tuningcan lie to you,I only use it to check my tune.I usually end up with both,a tuned bow and good paper tear.
Forget about paper at this point.You may have a torque issue or a slight spine issue.Get the broadheads flying true and then see if the paper is showing a good tear.
If it isn't,don't worry about it.It won't keep you from killing a deer.As long as it is shooting true and consistant.
I love paper but you really need to know how to read it and understand what is going on.
Paper tuningcan lie to you,I only use it to check my tune.I usually end up with both,a tuned bow and good paper tear.
09-16-2007, 01:52 PM
#19
Giant Nontypical
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Location: Northeast Tennessee
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RE: Uh oh...Houston we have a problem
Sometimes, things can be so simple.
Figured out what the problem was, in the process of seeing some bad flying arrows. I had forgot about some form issues. When I went to walkback tune, I made sure I followed thru and all that good stuff. 20,30,40yds, straight vertical line. Did it again, same result. I said to myself, could it be that easy? I grabbed my broadhead arrows, shot them at 40yds first. Perfect. 30yards perfect. 20yards, same thing. If anything they are hitting a TOUCH low.
Figured out what the problem was, in the process of seeing some bad flying arrows. I had forgot about some form issues. When I went to walkback tune, I made sure I followed thru and all that good stuff. 20,30,40yds, straight vertical line. Did it again, same result. I said to myself, could it be that easy? I grabbed my broadhead arrows, shot them at 40yds first. Perfect. 30yards perfect. 20yards, same thing. If anything they are hitting a TOUCH low.
