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Hi Bloodcreek,
Think of it like this...
Lets say you sighted in your 30 yard pin. We know that arrow is not flying exactly straight at the target. It actually shoots a little high to couteract the forces of gravity. It goes up and arcs down to hit your target.
In reality you sighted your bow is sighted in to account for how much that arrow drops in 30 yards right? Right.
So here is the thing... Lets say you ranged your block at 30 yds from the base of a tree. If you climb it to 10 yds (or 30 feet) and range it, it will always be a couple of yards farther from the top of the tree than the base of the tree. So then here is theheart of this thread. Which yardage readingdoyou use? The one at the top of the tree that, or at the bottom?
The bottom ( 30 yds). because no matter how high up you are in that tree, the arrow still flies 30 yards from the base of the tree to that block.
So most everybody is right here because...
1) If you subtract 2-3 yards from the range at the top of the tree you're really shooting very close to what the range is from the bottom, which is about 30 yds
2) in a^2+b^2=c^2, a = the distance from the base of the tree which is 30yds
3) If you aim a little low from the range at the top of the tree, you are compensating for the extra yardage at the top of the tree and again aiming for aproximatly 30 yds.
4) Now for the guys that are aiming right on from the top of the tree, if they sighted in their sights from the top of the tree, they'll be right on. If they sighted in their bows from the ground, then they'll hit a couple inches low.. but in real life, a couple of inches is well within what it takes to kill a deer, and if the deer squats those couple of inches just before he bolts seconds before the arrow hits him, he just made up those inches for you and he's a dead deer.
So there is my minimal math explination on why everybody is right.
Think of it like this...
Lets say you sighted in your 30 yard pin. We know that arrow is not flying exactly straight at the target. It actually shoots a little high to couteract the forces of gravity. It goes up and arcs down to hit your target.
In reality you sighted your bow is sighted in to account for how much that arrow drops in 30 yards right? Right.
So here is the thing... Lets say you ranged your block at 30 yds from the base of a tree. If you climb it to 10 yds (or 30 feet) and range it, it will always be a couple of yards farther from the top of the tree than the base of the tree. So then here is theheart of this thread. Which yardage readingdoyou use? The one at the top of the tree that, or at the bottom?
The bottom ( 30 yds). because no matter how high up you are in that tree, the arrow still flies 30 yards from the base of the tree to that block.
So most everybody is right here because...
1) If you subtract 2-3 yards from the range at the top of the tree you're really shooting very close to what the range is from the bottom, which is about 30 yds
2) in a^2+b^2=c^2, a = the distance from the base of the tree which is 30yds
3) If you aim a little low from the range at the top of the tree, you are compensating for the extra yardage at the top of the tree and again aiming for aproximatly 30 yds.
4) Now for the guys that are aiming right on from the top of the tree, if they sighted in their sights from the top of the tree, they'll be right on. If they sighted in their bows from the ground, then they'll hit a couple inches low.. but in real life, a couple of inches is well within what it takes to kill a deer, and if the deer squats those couple of inches just before he bolts seconds before the arrow hits him, he just made up those inches for you and he's a dead deer.
So there is my minimal math explination on why everybody is right.
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Hi Bloodcreek,
Think of it like this...
Lets say you sighted in your 30 yard pin. We know that arrow is not flying exactly straight at the target. It actually shoots a little high to couteract the forces of gravity. It goes up and arcs down to hit your target.
In reality you sighted your bow is sighted in to account for how much that arrow drops in 30 yards right? Right.
So here is the thing... Lets say you ranged your block at 30 yds from the base of a tree. If you climb it to 10 yds (or 30 feet) and range it, it will always be a couple of yards farther from the top of the tree than the base of the tree. So then here is theheart of this thread. Which yardage readingdoyou use? The one at the top of the tree that, or at the bottom?
The bottom ( 30 yds). because no matter how high up you are in that tree, the arrow still flies 30 yards from the base of the tree to that block.
So most everybody is right here because...
1) If you subtract 2-3 yards from the range at the top of the tree you're really shooting very close to what the range is from the bottom, which is about 30 yds
2) in a^2+b^2=c^2, a = the distance from the base of the tree which is 30yds
3) If you aim a little low from the range at the top of the tree, you are compensating for the extra yardage at the top of the tree and again aiming for aproximatly 30 yds.
4) Now for the guys that are aiming right on from the top of the tree, if they sighted in their sights from the top of the tree, they'll be right on. If they sighted in their bows from the ground, then they'll hit a couple inches low.. but in real life, a couple of inches is well within what it takes to kill a deer, and if the deer squats those couple of inches just before he bolts seconds before the arrow hits him, he just made up those inches for you and he's a dead deer.
So there is my minimal math explination on why everybody is right.
Hi Bloodcreek,
Think of it like this...
Lets say you sighted in your 30 yard pin. We know that arrow is not flying exactly straight at the target. It actually shoots a little high to couteract the forces of gravity. It goes up and arcs down to hit your target.
In reality you sighted your bow is sighted in to account for how much that arrow drops in 30 yards right? Right.
So here is the thing... Lets say you ranged your block at 30 yds from the base of a tree. If you climb it to 10 yds (or 30 feet) and range it, it will always be a couple of yards farther from the top of the tree than the base of the tree. So then here is theheart of this thread. Which yardage readingdoyou use? The one at the top of the tree that, or at the bottom?
The bottom ( 30 yds). because no matter how high up you are in that tree, the arrow still flies 30 yards from the base of the tree to that block.
So most everybody is right here because...
1) If you subtract 2-3 yards from the range at the top of the tree you're really shooting very close to what the range is from the bottom, which is about 30 yds
2) in a^2+b^2=c^2, a = the distance from the base of the tree which is 30yds
3) If you aim a little low from the range at the top of the tree, you are compensating for the extra yardage at the top of the tree and again aiming for aproximatly 30 yds.
4) Now for the guys that are aiming right on from the top of the tree, if they sighted in their sights from the top of the tree, they'll be right on. If they sighted in their bows from the ground, then they'll hit a couple inches low.. but in real life, a couple of inches is well within what it takes to kill a deer, and if the deer squats those couple of inches just before he bolts seconds before the arrow hits him, he just made up those inches for you and he's a dead deer.
So there is my minimal math explination on why everybody is right.
I guarantee that if your 30 feet in a tree, the target is 30 yards from the tree and you range it, you'll range 31 yards. No one here can shoot the difference. Pick an exit hole and give it to em.
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Here's some math to ponder.....
If you are 21 feet up in a tree (pretty standard height)
You range 20 yards from your treestand, the target will be 18.73 yards.
You range 25 yards from your treestand, the target will be 24 yards.
You range 30 yards from your treestand, the target will be 29. 17 yards.
You range 35 yards from your treestand, the target will be 34.29 yards.
You range 40 yards from your treestand, the target will be 39.38 yards.
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