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Old 08-08-2007, 10:59 AM
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Dan,

what if you were offered something that you wanted to hunt but had never had the chance to? As for me, i have always wanted to go elk hunting, but have never gotten the chance to go. now if i were to get an invite from a friend who said "i have got a ton of land and all you have to pay for is the tag, would you like to go? there is one thing though, you cant shoot the 6X7 bull that is running around. i have been chasing him for 3 years now." i personally would still accept. i have a chance to get a great animal with only one rule. ican kind ofsee how that is being selfish, but he has been pursueing the same animal for a while. i know it is a little diffrent senario but would you not accept?
That would be a very tough choice, but I would decline that as well.

First, someone telling you not to do something that they would do is no friend. If I were to harvest that bull, he had better be happy for me.

Second, I am a trophy hunter. I shoot plenty of does and end up with enough meat at the end of the season. I can't fathom hunting with someone who would put restrictions on my opportunity of a lifetime for their selfish gain.

Like I said earlier, I would NEVER invite someone to hunt with me and then put restrictions on them thatI would not follow. Thus, I would expect to be treated the same way.
Thats a good point and i can see where you are coming from on that. I guess it would be a little selfish of him to do that but what kind of friend would you be if he had mentioned a certain animal that he had been hunting and youwent off and shot it? but, your right, a true friend would be happy that you got such a great animal. good point
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:00 AM
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I guess it depends on your area. How much land is available to you..blah blah blah
or perhaps, the standard which you hold your friendships to
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:00 AM
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DAN_

I wasn't talking about you as an individual. But rather of part of a group dynamic..and yes from hearing how you hunt virtually non-stop in the areas that you do...you are indeed blessed and should have higher standards than probably 98% of us.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:00 AM
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In this type hunt, there is usually a guide sitting with you...Say a 8 point (120 class) walks out, guide says, that's the one we want out....Before you shoot Bubba walks out (165 class)...You say "That's the one I want"
Guide says "That one will cost you $3,000"....Don't know about you guys but I'm out....

Fortunately, I hunt land that I own or I lease...All I have to do is abide by the rules set forth by my state's Wildlife Dept....

When I do take guests, I don't stipulate what they can kill...If I have a problem with what they might take, I don't ask them.

But, to answer your question...I would abide by the rules set by my host,
if I couldn't, I wouldn't go.


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Old 08-08-2007, 11:03 AM
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Dan,

what if you were offered something that you wanted to hunt but had never had the chance to? As for me, i have always wanted to go elk hunting, but have never gotten the chance to go. now if i were to get an invite from a friend who said "i have got a ton of land and all you have to pay for is the tag, would you like to go? there is one thing though, you cant shoot the 6X7 bull that is running around. i have been chasing him for 3 years now." i personally would still accept. i have a chance to get a great animal with only one rule. ican kind ofsee how that is being selfish, but he has been pursueing the same animal for a while. i know it is a little diffrent senario but would you not accept?
That would be a very tough choice, but I would decline that as well.

First, someone telling you not to do something that they would do is no friend. If I were to harvest that bull, he had better be happy for me.

Second, I am a trophy hunter. I shoot plenty of does and end up with enough meat at the end of the season. I can't fathom hunting with someone who would put restrictions on my opportunity of a lifetime for their selfish gain.

Like I said earlier, I would NEVER invite someone to hunt with me and then put restrictions on them thatI would not follow. Thus, I would expect to be treated the same way.
Thats a good point and i can see where you are coming from on that. I guess it would be a little selfish of him to do that but what kind of friend would you be if he had mentioned a certain animal that he had been hunting and youwent off and shot it? but, your right, a true friend would be happy that you got such a great animal. good point
That swings two ways though. If you were a true friend would you really shoot the bull your buddy, the one who invited you there, is lusting after? Does shooting a trophy mean that much so that you would take it away from your friend? Or would you pass on that bull and hope to tag something else? True friendship isn't a oneway street.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:04 AM
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If you are invited to someones land to hunt, whether they own it, lease it or just have permission from a private land owner, you should abide by their rules or decline the offer. Public land is another story. Public means public, an individual has no right to enforce his rules on anyone hunting public land.

It's that simple. If I needed help thinning does on my lease and invited someone out for a doe hunt and they shot a mature buck (or any buck), I'd be PO'd. What part of doe hunt didn't they understand? They wouldn't be hunting with me anymore, not even for rabbits.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:04 AM
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Not sure what point we're trying to make here . But we can see who is ____________.

a) Spoiled
b) Blessed




If you're talking about me, I'll admit the answer is b.
As For me I'm doubly blessed ,because I am handsome also........[8D]

OR

C.) Still sufferring the effects from the wild days in the 70's
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:06 AM
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I got the opportunity to hunt 3000 acres of an upcoming outfitter in SC. The hole place was beutiful... rolling foothills, rivers, streams, red clay, very nice trophy bucks everywhere. I hunted for deer and rabbit... the only restriction was that I could not hunt the 1000 acres on the left side of the river. Of course I accepted. The guy has worked on this his entire life... and to choose me, a person he doesnt even know, to hunt his land for free, it would be selfish and ignorant for me to say no. "Hey man... thanks for the invitation, but you're only gonna let me hunt 2000 of the 3000 acres... and in my opinion, thats selfish of you to invite me, a complete stranger, to hunt your place but put one restriction on it. I'm too good for that."

No offense Dan, but I find it very hard to believe that you would decline that elk hunt. [:-]
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:07 AM
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Guide says "That one will cost you $3,000"....Don't know about you guys but I'm out....
Like you nc, I usually hunt where the only thing governing me is the regulations.

And I would never, in a million years hunt where the bigger animal costs more than the smaller one. If an outfitter/guide is engaged, imo, it should always be to give you the best opportunity at the best animal, if possible, for one flat fair chase fee.

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Old 08-08-2007, 11:09 AM
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noope...for different reasons than everyone else. 'big time lease' reminds me of all the small time hunters that got crowded out when someone showed up in the neighborhood offering cash...i just wouldnt enjoy the hunt as much.

its a purely personal choice, i would totally respect anyone elses choice to hunt/not hunt it. nor am i against such leases...for others.
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