Guys, I have seen the light
#11
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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RE: Guys, I have seen the light
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO
I still think I want the extra "oomph" to give me the best possibly chance to blow through a shoulder bone if I hit a touch forward; but I make sure as well I'm not over-bowed in that thought process -- I can pull my bow easily, smoothly, without "skying" it while sitting cross-legged on the ground.
I did just get in a brand-new Constitution for my venture into 3D shooting... and I got it in 60 lbs. I figure there'll be days and courses where I'm shooting her a lot, and the combination of 60 plus the smoothness of the Constitution is really gonna make this a pleasureable bow!!
I still think I want the extra "oomph" to give me the best possibly chance to blow through a shoulder bone if I hit a touch forward; but I make sure as well I'm not over-bowed in that thought process -- I can pull my bow easily, smoothly, without "skying" it while sitting cross-legged on the ground.
I did just get in a brand-new Constitution for my venture into 3D shooting... and I got it in 60 lbs. I figure there'll be days and courses where I'm shooting her a lot, and the combination of 60 plus the smoothness of the Constitution is really gonna make this a pleasureable bow!!
#12
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: Guys, I have seen the light
My favorite tournament bow back in the dark ages (late 80's) was an 80# Hoyt ProVantage with Carbon+ limbs and E-wheels. My last Hoyt was a 60# ProTec with LXPro limbs and Accuwheels. Very similar setups. Same axle to axle length but the ProTec has a 2" lower brace height. The newer, more advanced and more efficient ProTec shot the same exact arrow the same exact speed as my old ProVantage.
I would have hunted anything in North America and most of Africa with my old ProVantage. Why would I not do the same with my ProTec, considering it gives me identical performance at 20 lbs less draw weight?
To those who say "If you can pull it, shoot it"... I used to shoot longbows and recurves up to 120 lbs. I had a Martin Cougar XRG that peaked out at 110 lbs. They got the sap shot out of 'em because I could draw them fairly easily and I shot them quite well. Now, though, my shoulders are paying the price for my idiocy. I can barely lift my arms over my head and can hardly draw any bow any longer. Even sleeping is a hassle because my shoulders hurt and throb when I get into a 'wrong' position.
I wish now I'd never shot anything pulling more than 65 lbs.
I would have hunted anything in North America and most of Africa with my old ProVantage. Why would I not do the same with my ProTec, considering it gives me identical performance at 20 lbs less draw weight?
To those who say "If you can pull it, shoot it"... I used to shoot longbows and recurves up to 120 lbs. I had a Martin Cougar XRG that peaked out at 110 lbs. They got the sap shot out of 'em because I could draw them fairly easily and I shot them quite well. Now, though, my shoulders are paying the price for my idiocy. I can barely lift my arms over my head and can hardly draw any bow any longer. Even sleeping is a hassle because my shoulders hurt and throb when I get into a 'wrong' position.
I wish now I'd never shot anything pulling more than 65 lbs.
#13
RE: Guys, I have seen the light
when I saw the title of this thread, I thought maybe you had traded bows again and got a Mathews or a Ross
I say, shoot the poundage you are happy with.
I usually shoot anywhere from 65-70 myself. Depends on the bow and what "feels" right for that setup for me.
I say, shoot the poundage you are happy with.
I usually shoot anywhere from 65-70 myself. Depends on the bow and what "feels" right for that setup for me.
#14
RE: Guys, I have seen the light
After experiencing what pulling too much weight can do to your shoulders and back I don't buy any bows over 60# either. I thought I could pull 70# easy too and did. That is until one day out of nowhere I was sidelined and missed most of deer season beacuse I wanted to be Hercules and draw 70 lbs. It overkill htese days like Don said. But shoot what you want pay later.
#15
RE: Guys, I have seen the light
I used to shoot cranked up to 70 but over the last few years Ive backed off to 62 #s. The older I get the more my old injuries seem to hurt every morning. My buddies son shoots a 50# pull and he has taken several deer since he was strong enough to draw it back.
#16
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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RE: Guys, I have seen the light
go to a 52# recurve shooting a 550 grain arrow 170 fps - generating in the neightborhood of 28-30 footpounds and kill a few animals with it and you quickly realize almost all compounds are high poundage overkilling machines
#17
RE: Guys, I have seen the light
hch, very proud of you. artp - very sorry to hear about your shoulder issues buddy. i'm 40 now, quit pulling 70# a bit over a year ago - and its thanks to you and a couple others arthur, and i really appreciate how candid you've been about your shoulders.
#18
RE: Guys, I have seen the light
Glad you like the 60# and it works for you. You make a valid point on speeds and such but too each their own.
By comparison:
65 mph on a 883CC Harley is the same as 65 MPH on a 1600cc Harley......[8D]
By comparison:
65 mph on a 883CC Harley is the same as 65 MPH on a 1600cc Harley......[8D]
#19
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RE: Guys, I have seen the light
ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d
.By comparison:
65 mph on a 883CC Harley is the same as 65 MPH on a 1600cc Harley......[8D]
.By comparison:
65 mph on a 883CC Harley is the same as 65 MPH on a 1600cc Harley......[8D]
#20
RE: Guys, I have seen the light
but with a 60# setup you are still over 15 ft pounds of the recommended kinetic energy needed for bear, elk, or caribou and over 25 ft pounds of the recommended kinetic energy for a whitetail deer
Don, forgive me for not understanding your stated numbers here. Are you really telling me that it takes more KE for a deer than it does an Elk or Caribou?
I am glad you like that new setup of yours. Earlier this year, that Guardian was calling my name!! But I resisted temptation and will wait a couple of years before I upgrade.