How many guys.... a different perspective...
#11
RE: How many guys.... a different perspective...
ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter
If I don't kill an animal at the end of the season, I have failed somehow. I didn't put myself in the position to put all the practice and preparations I made to good use, so therefor I've failed. It may not be a complete failure, as I'm sure to have learned something along the way, gained a bit more experience, and made some memories, but I have still failed.
If I don't kill an animal at the end of the season, I have failed somehow. I didn't put myself in the position to put all the practice and preparations I made to good use, so therefor I've failed. It may not be a complete failure, as I'm sure to have learned something along the way, gained a bit more experience, and made some memories, but I have still failed.
#12
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blossvale, New York
Posts: 21,199
RE: How many guys.... a different perspective...
We as hunters better step up and make it enjoyable for the youth/new hunters and give them hope instead of the everyday failure of life that Davidmil speaks of! Why must some bring that "failure" into hunting, why not enjoy it!
One could have 20 P&Y or B&C bucks, kills every season etc, etc, etc..., but if you discouraged or didn't pass your knowledge on to the youth/new hunters, then you failed as a hunter! Some sure are missing out!
One could have 20 P&Y or B&C bucks, kills every season etc, etc, etc..., but if you discouraged or didn't pass your knowledge on to the youth/new hunters, then you failed as a hunter! Some sure are missing out!
#13
RE: How many guys.... a different perspective...
I think the word succeess is used TOO often.
Hunting is great in such that you can learn, have fun, make friends etc, all while failing. When you go out hunting your intent is to kill something. Just because you don't doesn;t mean you didn't have fun, or enjoy yourself, or help some one else out, etc. But you failed at killing an animal. Sometimes the greatest hunts are those that we fail on. there is no shame in it. Look at every predator in the world, they fail far more attempts than they succeed. That's how it goes. It's ok to admit failure, and have a good time doing so.
Hunting is great in such that you can learn, have fun, make friends etc, all while failing. When you go out hunting your intent is to kill something. Just because you don't doesn;t mean you didn't have fun, or enjoy yourself, or help some one else out, etc. But you failed at killing an animal. Sometimes the greatest hunts are those that we fail on. there is no shame in it. Look at every predator in the world, they fail far more attempts than they succeed. That's how it goes. It's ok to admit failure, and have a good time doing so.
#14
RE: How many guys.... a different perspective...
I've had my share of "success" in a short deer hunting life.....but my greatest day afield (deer hunting) didn'tculminate ina kill.
I see both sides of the argument. I really do. There have been times when I have failed. No question (I wounded a deer, last year.....that ended up being fine). But the 41 hunts I wen ton last year that didn't see me harvesting an animal were part of an overall "successful" season. If I hadn't put the "failure" days in on stand.....the "successful" days might not have happened.
If you look at it in terms of each day being a barometer of a single hunter's "success" or "failure".....I think you're looking at the small picture. Big picure.....when everything's said and done.....and your season culminates......look yourself in the mirror and be honest.
Were you "successful" in your goal (whatever that may have been)? Or....did you "fail"?
I had a very successful 2006 season. That same, exact season, this year, would have me giving myself a different grade. "Success" will be graded on a different scale, this year.
I see both sides of the argument. I really do. There have been times when I have failed. No question (I wounded a deer, last year.....that ended up being fine). But the 41 hunts I wen ton last year that didn't see me harvesting an animal were part of an overall "successful" season. If I hadn't put the "failure" days in on stand.....the "successful" days might not have happened.
If you look at it in terms of each day being a barometer of a single hunter's "success" or "failure".....I think you're looking at the small picture. Big picure.....when everything's said and done.....and your season culminates......look yourself in the mirror and be honest.
Were you "successful" in your goal (whatever that may have been)? Or....did you "fail"?
I had a very successful 2006 season. That same, exact season, this year, would have me giving myself a different grade. "Success" will be graded on a different scale, this year.
#15
RE: How many guys.... a different perspective...
The whole success, failure thing is relative. Do you mean todays goals or my goals for the season? Do you mean in terms of kills or in terms of enjoying life in general? Much like Jeff I consider last season a success, however there were days I felt as if I failed miserably. I am still fairly new as a bowhunter. And as a relative newbie I don't measure my accomplishments against anyone but myself. If I try to compare my hunting failures and successes against some of our members that have many more years of experience or even against guys with better land to hunt, well, then I am shortchanging myself. My only measuring stick is me and that is all it should be. I believe that to be true for me and for anyone else that heads into the woods be they grizzled veteran or first timer.
#16
RE: How many guys.... a different perspective...
Theodore Roosevelt:
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It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
[blockquote]
From a speech given in Paris at the Sorbonne in
1910
Winston Churchill:
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Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.
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[/blockquote][/blockquote]
[blockquote]
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
[blockquote]
From a speech given in Paris at the Sorbonne in
1910
Winston Churchill:
[blockquote]
Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.
[/blockquote]
[/blockquote][/blockquote]
#17
RE: How many guys.... a different perspective...
I dont think you could put an individual hunting tripin a success or failure category. Well i take that back, youcan, to me if i shoot an animal, i won, if i dont i lost. Its that simple, Davidmil is right, in the end its about killing an animal. Is that the only reason i hunt, hell no, but it is the main reason, to get a beautiful animal. Going back to my first sentance though, i think you have to look athunting in seasons. If you go out andkill a deer everysingle night, it wouldnt be hunting anymore, it wouldbe killing. To me, hunting is ultimately about putting and animal down, but i know its not a one night thing, most likely it will take and entire season to do it.Some days the deer justdont move, you could be in the right spot at the wrong time. In otherwords, last year i had many many many failures inhunting ( sits without killing) but i enjoyed them all and in the end i got my animal and my season was a success. Hope that makes sense.
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RE: How many guys.... a different perspective...
ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d
Theodore Roosevelt:
[blockquote]
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
[blockquote]
From a speech given in Paris at the Sorbonne in
1910
Winston Churchill:
[blockquote]
Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.
[/blockquote]
[/blockquote][/blockquote]
Theodore Roosevelt:
[blockquote]
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
[blockquote]
From a speech given in Paris at the Sorbonne in
1910
Winston Churchill:
[blockquote]
Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.
[/blockquote]
[/blockquote][/blockquote]