How many guys....
06-07-2007, 12:03 PM
#51
Dominant Buck
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RE: How many guys....
That's not to say that the other guy isn't hunting or hunting hard, but to find a 3.5 year old on public land in PA and take him is truly a feat to be proud of because that is one educated and cagey deer.
Generalizations work both ways.....and too many times we think "our" circumstances are like everyone else's.
In all honesty.....I don't have a clue where the nearest "public" hunting land is. I don't know what it's called......and I know no one who hunts "public" land. Where I live....no one even speaks about it. If you told me I could have all the public land in my county to myself.....I wouldn't know where to drive to scout. Ditto my state!
06-07-2007, 12:28 PM
#52
Giant Nontypical
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RE: How many guys....
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Or....he was running from one yahoo....and ran into another, haphazardly. Hardly makes the second yahoo Fred Bear.
Generalizations work both ways.
That's not to say that the other guy isn't hunting or hunting hard, but to find a 3.5 year old on public land in PA and take him is truly a feat to be proud of because that is one educated and cagey deer.
Generalizations work both ways.
06-07-2007, 01:05 PM
#53
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RE: How many guys....
ORIGINAL: W.T.F.
I had no idea Kansas deer population was that low, I always just figured you guys had tons of them because you always here about the bruisers from KS. I guess the size doesnt have a whole lot to do with the numbers of deer.
but I agree with what most are saying size is not an excuse, neither is geographic region. you have to know your deer and if your not seeing the big boy that your after then its time to rethink your strategy and setup. I on the other hand just simply blew a 25 yard broadside shot at a nice 8 point no excuses just bad shot. I hope he visits my stand this year because I wont make that bad shot again
I had no idea Kansas deer population was that low, I always just figured you guys had tons of them because you always here about the bruisers from KS. I guess the size doesnt have a whole lot to do with the numbers of deer.
but I agree with what most are saying size is not an excuse, neither is geographic region. you have to know your deer and if your not seeing the big boy that your after then its time to rethink your strategy and setup. I on the other hand just simply blew a 25 yard broadside shot at a nice 8 point no excuses just bad shot. I hope he visits my stand this year because I wont make that bad shot again
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06-07-2007, 02:07 PM
#54
Nontypical Buck
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RE: How many guys....
If the buck you are after spends a morning chasing a doe around your stand but never stops or even slows down enough in a spot where you can shoot him, how is that a failure of yours? I would personally chalk the experience up as a success with some bad luck mixed in.
I do agree that during the rut if you have a particular buck staked out so well as to know what doe group he will be tending too, (older bucks havetheir routes) you know him very well and your successful in just putting yourself in the right doe family travel areas...a guy gets about 2-4 days to kill him andbeforehe'll finish up business andmost likely be gonetargeting another doe family. Thats what I've experienced out in my neck of the woods anyway.
06-07-2007, 02:32 PM
#56
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RE: How many guys....
If the buck you are after spends a morning chasing a doe around your stand but never stops or even slows down enough in a spot where you can shoot him, how is that a failure of yours? I would personally chalk the experience up as a success with some bad luck mixed in.
In my situation....I can only say that if I don't kill a mature buck this year.....it'll be because he isn't there.....or he doesn't offer me the opportunity. I'll be out there.
I have set a personal standard that I will adhere to. If I come up at the end of the season.....and haven't filled a buck tag.....you can rest assured that the deer din't show up. Like I said.....I'll be out there....doing what it takes (both pre-season work and spending time on stand).
I hope to not have to make such a statement.
I have set a personal standard that I will adhere to. If I come up at the end of the season.....and haven't filled a buck tag.....you can rest assured that the deer din't show up. Like I said.....I'll be out there....doing what it takes (both pre-season work and spending time on stand).
I hope to not have to make such a statement.
Jeff they are there, you just have to find them.
If the buck you are after spends a morning chasing a doe around your stand but never stops or even slows down enough in a spot where you can shoot him, how is that a failure of yours?
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06-07-2007, 04:33 PM
#57
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RE: How many guys....
what about those of us who dont have those huge parcels of land to hunt?? this last season i had access to a 20 acre square of woods. one side had a creek, other side cattle pasture. third side parkway, other side contiuned as woods. can you honestly tell me that it is my fault i didnt kill a buck up to my standards this past year? i couldnt drive, so hunting elsewhere wasnt really an option either.
ill have my license in two weeks so hopefully this next year it wont be from a lack of quality hunting ground.
i do agree that if you have a good place to hunt, there is no excuse to not get a buck or shot at a buck. just gotta put in your time.
i just think there are tooooo many variables to sum up all unfilled tags as you screwing up and not findin a buck of your likings. sometimes it just dont work out.
ill have my license in two weeks so hopefully this next year it wont be from a lack of quality hunting ground.
i do agree that if you have a good place to hunt, there is no excuse to not get a buck or shot at a buck. just gotta put in your time.
i just think there are tooooo many variables to sum up all unfilled tags as you screwing up and not findin a buck of your likings. sometimes it just dont work out.
06-07-2007, 06:09 PM
#58
Nontypical Buck
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RE: How many guys....
What I am trying to say is if youdidn't shoot an animal above your "personal standards" it is because you didn't put yourself in a position to succeed.
06-07-2007, 06:55 PM
#59
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RE: How many guys....
ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr
It's good to see that some of you guys can see what I am getting at [8D]
It's good to see that some of you guys can see what I am getting at [8D]
06-07-2007, 07:13 PM
#60
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RE: How many guys....
ORIGINAL: TEmbry15
what about those of us who dont have those huge parcels of land to hunt?? this last season i had access to a 20 acre square of woods. one side had a creek, other side cattle pasture. third side parkway, other side contiuned as woods. can you honestly tell me that it is my fault i didnt kill a buck up to my standards this past year? i couldnt drive, so hunting elsewhere wasnt really an option either.
ill have my license in two weeks so hopefully this next year it wont be from a lack of quality hunting ground.
i do agree that if you have a good place to hunt, there is no excuse to not get a buck or shot at a buck. just gotta put in your time.
i just think there are tooooo many variables to sum up all unfilled tags as you screwing up and not findin a buck of your likings. sometimes it just dont work out.
what about those of us who dont have those huge parcels of land to hunt?? this last season i had access to a 20 acre square of woods. one side had a creek, other side cattle pasture. third side parkway, other side contiuned as woods. can you honestly tell me that it is my fault i didnt kill a buck up to my standards this past year? i couldnt drive, so hunting elsewhere wasnt really an option either.
ill have my license in two weeks so hopefully this next year it wont be from a lack of quality hunting ground.
i do agree that if you have a good place to hunt, there is no excuse to not get a buck or shot at a buck. just gotta put in your time.
i just think there are tooooo many variables to sum up all unfilled tags as you screwing up and not findin a buck of your likings. sometimes it just dont work out.