Forget all you think you know about shot placement
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wappingers Falls NY USA
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Forget all you think you know about shot placement
Ok the title sounds strange but here is what I have to say about it. I had three successful hunts this year having taken two does and a 4 pointer. Here is the part that is interested and makes me wonder why I was always told to aim for the boiler room.
2 out of 3 of the deer taken (all with bow, I hate guns for big game) where hit in the rear end high and passed through the entire pelvis. Funny thing is both shots I aimed for the boiler room but I was shooting about 30 yrds through a Y in a tree on both occasions. The third animal was a double lung that dropped after about 40yrds. What is amazing is that the two animals hit high in the rear end dropped 10yrds from point of impact and expired almost immediately (I know this because I got down on both occasions moments after the shot because they where down in sight with no movement).
The question is, am I just that lucky or could this be just as fatal as double lung or even more so? Let me remind you that in both cases it was an accident that ended on a poistive note. Do any of you have any idea why this shot was so lethal so quickly for both animals?
I am extremely happy and I had a wonderful season ending with a young 4 yesterday and two does earlier. I hope everyone had a wonderful season.
Hunting is like life. You plan and practice thinking everything is just right and suddenly the wind shifts directions and it's all over.
2 out of 3 of the deer taken (all with bow, I hate guns for big game) where hit in the rear end high and passed through the entire pelvis. Funny thing is both shots I aimed for the boiler room but I was shooting about 30 yrds through a Y in a tree on both occasions. The third animal was a double lung that dropped after about 40yrds. What is amazing is that the two animals hit high in the rear end dropped 10yrds from point of impact and expired almost immediately (I know this because I got down on both occasions moments after the shot because they where down in sight with no movement).
The question is, am I just that lucky or could this be just as fatal as double lung or even more so? Let me remind you that in both cases it was an accident that ended on a poistive note. Do any of you have any idea why this shot was so lethal so quickly for both animals?
I am extremely happy and I had a wonderful season ending with a young 4 yesterday and two does earlier. I hope everyone had a wonderful season.
Hunting is like life. You plan and practice thinking everything is just right and suddenly the wind shifts directions and it's all over.
#2
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RE: Forget all you think you know about shot placement
Seriously does anyone know why those shots where so fatal?
Hunting is like life. You plan and practice thinking everything is just right and suddenly the wind shifts directions and it's all over.
Hunting is like life. You plan and practice thinking everything is just right and suddenly the wind shifts directions and it's all over.
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Forget all you think you know about shot placement
Dog nailed it. The femoral artery will bleed out a deer very quickly. I am glad you wound up with your deer both times, but I hope that flags went up telling you maybe a 30 yd shot like you've taken in those cases may not be such a good idea. Your luck will run out eventually.
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Forget all you think you know about shot placement
Luck for sure... but a deadly shot. I had one like it once.... and the deer was down and out within 25 yards. Mine was a severe angled away shot. I aimed for right in front of the hind quarter but the deer jumped at the shot. Caught him high in the hind quarter which must have tickled the spine pretty well as he immediately went to floundering and never did get his legs under him. Another was like KRISKEN's. I was young and foolish and it worked, but I wouldn't do it again. I only had the hind quarter broadside so took it. Square through both hams. The deer ran out across a peanut field and dropped within site about 200 yards away. I took that one as I had read some magazine the week before where some "EXPERT" called it a good shot and very deadly. I have since classified it as a lucky shot but deadly....(at times if you're lucky). It really messed up some meat
Edited by - davidmil on 12/16/2002 10:24:37
Edited by - davidmil on 12/16/2002 10:24:37
#8
RE: Forget all you think you know about shot placement
I have killed a few deer with this shot also. Wasn't trying to do so, just happened that way. It was in my younger days when I wasn't so willing to wait and concentrate on the better shots.
It does put the deer down relatively quick, but the amound of meat that is lost due to this shot is a lot. And typically those are the good roasts and hams.
I don't recomend trying to take this shot on purpose, but if you accidently get a hit there (like the deer spinning on release)the chances are good you will find them.
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It does put the deer down relatively quick, but the amound of meat that is lost due to this shot is a lot. And typically those are the good roasts and hams.
I don't recomend trying to take this shot on purpose, but if you accidently get a hit there (like the deer spinning on release)the chances are good you will find them.
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RE: Forget all you think you know about shot placement
Thanks for the replies.
I do want to make it clear that they where both accidental. I honestly am not sure whether both animals jumped the string or if there was a deflection from twigs, but in any case it happened and I am extremely thankful for the quick action of the shot.
wimp:
I have taken many animals with a bow and 35yrds is my effective range and when I say effective meaning 5 of 5 shots hit a 3inch circle. I am extremely confident in my capabilities and I think that the fact I have only lost one in 10 years of bowhunting attest to that fact. I admit I was extremely lucky in both situations but in all honesty there isn't much I could do about the situation in regard to my skill level.
Hunting is like life. You plan and practice thinking everything is just right and suddenly the wind shifts directions and it's all over.
I do want to make it clear that they where both accidental. I honestly am not sure whether both animals jumped the string or if there was a deflection from twigs, but in any case it happened and I am extremely thankful for the quick action of the shot.
wimp:
I have taken many animals with a bow and 35yrds is my effective range and when I say effective meaning 5 of 5 shots hit a 3inch circle. I am extremely confident in my capabilities and I think that the fact I have only lost one in 10 years of bowhunting attest to that fact. I admit I was extremely lucky in both situations but in all honesty there isn't much I could do about the situation in regard to my skill level.
Hunting is like life. You plan and practice thinking everything is just right and suddenly the wind shifts directions and it's all over.
#10
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fort Wayne Indiana USA
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RE: Forget all you think you know about shot placement
Look at the size of the femoral artery going down each hind leg, it's about the diameter of a #2 pencil for only 1/2 to 2/3 the distance from hip to "knee" before it branches into smaller arteries.
Now compare that to the vitals in the boiler room. The size difference makes a fatal leg hit a low percentage shot.
Dog is right... again!
Shoot often - Hunt always
Now compare that to the vitals in the boiler room. The size difference makes a fatal leg hit a low percentage shot.
Dog is right... again!
Shoot often - Hunt always