Is this cheating?
#11
RE: Is this cheating?
I see nothing illegal or unethical about it..at least from my standpoint. The guy used his head, and his flashlight, to make sure the deer didn't spook. Sounds like a smart guy to me.
On the other hand, try that in my neck of the woods and the deer would laugh as you walked by and then tell all their friends exactly where you put your tree stand up that morning.
On the other hand, try that in my neck of the woods and the deer would laugh as you walked by and then tell all their friends exactly where you put your tree stand up that morning.
#12
RE: Is this cheating?
ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter
IMO a deer isn't just going to hang out because it has been hit with a light in the eyes. I have spooked many a deer when walking through the woods in the AM and even though you have a light in their eyes they aren't going to stick around long with crunching leaves from you walking footsteps. I think it was a freak deal or he is blowing smoke up your butt with his story.
IMO a deer isn't just going to hang out because it has been hit with a light in the eyes. I have spooked many a deer when walking through the woods in the AM and even though you have a light in their eyes they aren't going to stick around long with crunching leaves from you walking footsteps. I think it was a freak deal or he is blowing smoke up your butt with his story.
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RE: Is this cheating?
ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter
IMO a deer isn't just going to hang out because it has been hit with a light in the eyes. I have spooked many a deer when walking through the woods in the AM and even though you have a light in their eyes they aren't going to stick around long with crunching leaves from you walking footsteps. I think it was a freak deal or he is blowing smoke up your butt with his story.
IMO a deer isn't just going to hang out because it has been hit with a light in the eyes. I have spooked many a deer when walking through the woods in the AM and even though you have a light in their eyes they aren't going to stick around long with crunching leaves from you walking footsteps. I think it was a freak deal or he is blowing smoke up your butt with his story.
Also, I've never hunted with the guy but I do hunt some of the same private property that he does. I've never seen him breaking the law. Bow season he's got a bow and so on, no bait, no spot lights, legal hours.
Who knows?
#15
RE: Is this cheating?
The idea does not sound realistic to me, at least in NJ.
First off, IDO think it's unfair on the animals bahalf to use a flashlight to temporarily freeze the deer until you get into your tree.
Having said that, I've used a flashlight to get my tree in the morning hours since I've started hunting.......Knowing full well that any deer in Jersey that sees a flashlight, even tiny ones(flashlight), is long gone before the beam even hits the eyes. Our deer don't tolerate lights very well. That's why I cringe every time I have to walk to a spot in the dark using my light.(and believe me its tiny, it's actually a pen light, just bright enough to see where I'm stepping). Even using the pen light, you get the occational crashing of hooves in the distance. I just keep saying to myself they were a buch of fawns.
I can't imagine a mature buck being hitfrom 50-60 yds(or less)with a light, and not blow right out of the area.
Maybe it's just my state.
First off, IDO think it's unfair on the animals bahalf to use a flashlight to temporarily freeze the deer until you get into your tree.
Having said that, I've used a flashlight to get my tree in the morning hours since I've started hunting.......Knowing full well that any deer in Jersey that sees a flashlight, even tiny ones(flashlight), is long gone before the beam even hits the eyes. Our deer don't tolerate lights very well. That's why I cringe every time I have to walk to a spot in the dark using my light.(and believe me its tiny, it's actually a pen light, just bright enough to see where I'm stepping). Even using the pen light, you get the occational crashing of hooves in the distance. I just keep saying to myself they were a buch of fawns.
I can't imagine a mature buck being hitfrom 50-60 yds(or less)with a light, and not blow right out of the area.
Maybe it's just my state.
#16
RE: Is this cheating?
THE reason I posted what I did......
A couple of years ago.....a car load of teens were stranded....in a broken down vehicle. While they were waiting for help......they were shining their flashlight into fields and woods.....spotlighting deer (again....with a flashlight).
They were ALL cited by a warden who witnessed this.
A couple of years ago.....a car load of teens were stranded....in a broken down vehicle. While they were waiting for help......they were shining their flashlight into fields and woods.....spotlighting deer (again....with a flashlight).
They were ALL cited by a warden who witnessed this.
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RE: Is this cheating?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
THE reason I posted what I did......
A couple of years ago.....a car load of teens were stranded....in a broken down vehicle. While they were waiting for help......they were shining their flashlight into fields and woods.....spotlighting deer (again....with a flashlight).
They were ALL cited by a warden who witnessed this.
THE reason I posted what I did......
A couple of years ago.....a car load of teens were stranded....in a broken down vehicle. While they were waiting for help......they were shining their flashlight into fields and woods.....spotlighting deer (again....with a flashlight).
They were ALL cited by a warden who witnessed this.