Canned hunts
#31
RE: Canned hunts
ORIGINAL: Davoh
Wow... same old arguement...
I don't care for fenced properties under 1000 acres(just as a good round number for arguements sake)....
That said I would probably take it and let my wife hunt it if she wanted.
Depending on the terrain, you'd likely never know the fence was there unless You knew it was there already. Even on 400 acres...
On our place in SW Texas is all low fence, but I know the vast majority of hunting spots on it you'd never know the difference.
Stop calling high fenced 1000 acre ranches "Canned Hunts". Disinformation is a tactic best left up to thos who must not be named.
Disclaimer: I didnt read the whole thread, and don't intend to. I'm getting tired of all the flamers here. Especially on this subject.
Wow... same old arguement...
I don't care for fenced properties under 1000 acres(just as a good round number for arguements sake)....
That said I would probably take it and let my wife hunt it if she wanted.
Depending on the terrain, you'd likely never know the fence was there unless You knew it was there already. Even on 400 acres...
On our place in SW Texas is all low fence, but I know the vast majority of hunting spots on it you'd never know the difference.
Stop calling high fenced 1000 acre ranches "Canned Hunts". Disinformation is a tactic best left up to thos who must not be named.
Disclaimer: I didnt read the whole thread, and don't intend to. I'm getting tired of all the flamers here. Especially on this subject.
#33
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Heaven is my home, temporarily residing in WNY :)
Posts: 6,679
RE: Canned hunts
Yeah, I follow you.I've heard people say its not my bag, it's not for me, etc. Why, what turns you off to it or what don't you like about it? Just a question.
My personal effort, to me, determines the intensity of my satisfaction at the end of a successful hunt, which doesn't necessarily end up in a dead deer.
So for me to spend money on a "guaranteed" hunt that I had put zero effort into ..... it wouldn't be nearly as satisfying to me. I am not turned off by it though, so if any out there want to give me a free high fenced hunt, I am down [8D]
It's all personal
#35
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 25
RE: Canned hunts
400 acres is a little small..
For several years I hunted a buddies ranch down past Kerrville, TX which had a "high fence" but it was 4800 acres. The only difference between this hunting and hunting a no fence was that the cattle couldn't get out. I watched a many whitetail, axis, foxes, cats, pigs, and every other critter that roamed there cruise right under them fences. You would try to keep holes patched but them darn pigs would just make a new one.
So just because a piece of land is high fenced doesn't mean it is an easy kill, or tamed animals, or "canned hunting". Now it would be hard to say 400 acres is not that way, I have never seen a 400 acre ranch so I wouldn't know. I would take the hunt though, just to practice with my new bow.
For several years I hunted a buddies ranch down past Kerrville, TX which had a "high fence" but it was 4800 acres. The only difference between this hunting and hunting a no fence was that the cattle couldn't get out. I watched a many whitetail, axis, foxes, cats, pigs, and every other critter that roamed there cruise right under them fences. You would try to keep holes patched but them darn pigs would just make a new one.
So just because a piece of land is high fenced doesn't mean it is an easy kill, or tamed animals, or "canned hunting". Now it would be hard to say 400 acres is not that way, I have never seen a 400 acre ranch so I wouldn't know. I would take the hunt though, just to practice with my new bow.
#36
RE: Canned hunts
I'm sureall High Fenced facilities aren't as bad as the one that I had explained in an earlier post. It seems the "ranches" that have bucks growing antlers that almost look hellish(and sometimes ridiculous) fall into those ranks.Their antlers have grown far more than they would have in the wild.Bucks areconstantly herded into cages, tranquilized andpumped up with steroids, so the animals can be "worked on" or "genetically engineered". It's almost like the deer are a scientific experiment. The largest bucks have grown into freaks, with world record bone on their head. Again, theirtranquilized, have their sperm removed,then sold(for huge money)to other ranches to produce more circus freaks. Then BIG JOE HUNTER GUY comes along, pays his12,000.00-20,000.00, gets set up in a box, on a predictable run that the buck will take from his cage back to the woods, and pulls the trigger on a 280" trophy. I know of people who have gone to ranches and the guide will pull up in front of your stand in a p-up truck, and start throwing alphalpha hay out.......RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE"HUNTER". The animals hear the truck, and it's like a dinner bell. As soon as he pulls away, all the deer come to the bait.This simply disgusts me, and is by all means a disgrace. This type of controlled killing does nothing for the sport of hunting.
#37
RE: Canned hunts
ORIGINAL: Maggy
If it was a pig hunt, make it fair, use a knife.
So most here is against high fence hunting. Did you all know that Ted Nugent has a high fence hunting ranch in Michigan called Sunrize Acres that he boasts as fair chase?
If it was a pig hunt, make it fair, use a knife.
So most here is against high fence hunting. Did you all know that Ted Nugent has a high fence hunting ranch in Michigan called Sunrize Acres that he boasts as fair chase?
I think if I won something like this, I'd probably try to donate it to a handicapped hunter who was interested. Either that, or I'd go and shoot one of their $25k deer, then sell the rack for $$$$$ for a REAL HUNT!!! But I'd be more apt to donate the hunt to a handicapped hunter that was interested.
#38
RE: Canned hunts
ORIGINAL: Maggy
So most here is against high fence hunting. Did you all know that Ted Nugent has a high fence hunting ranch in Michigan called Sunrize Acres that he boasts as fair chase?
So most here is against high fence hunting. Did you all know that Ted Nugent has a high fence hunting ranch in Michigan called Sunrize Acres that he boasts as fair chase?
I don't have any desire to go on a "canned hunt". It honestly would not be worththe time to me. Just wouldn't raise my heart rate one bpm so why bother? If you decide to go, I do hope that you have a great time.
#40
RE: Canned hunts
When I was 18 a friend of mine invited me to go on a hunt with him and several business associates that he was entertaining. He had an extra spot so I said what the hey andalong I went. I did not know what I was getting into at first and I did not ask enough questions I guess.
I ended up killing a pig before I realized exactly what I had just done. While I was walking out it hit me. I had just participated in something that made me feel terrible. Prior to this I had no feeling one way or the other on the subject. I really never knew these types of places existed. The fenced in areas were probably 15-20 acres per lotand each lot had different priced animals in it. Pigs were $400.00. It was not hunting imo.The gutted and hung the pig on a meat pole and quartered it. The owner asked me if I wanted it caped out for a mount! I respectfully declined.
There was a man in the $2,000 pen with a high powered rifle shooting exotics. He killed 5 animals without leaving his "blind". Walked to the lodge and cut a check for each animal and the taxidermy work that was to be done. The owner said he would mail the heads to him after the taxidermy work was done[:@]. The man got into a mini van and drove off.
I was so sick at myself, I refused to even take the meat home.[:'(] I gave it to one of the others in my group. I was so sickend by what I had just participated in that I was angry.[:@] I know all canned hunts are not this bad, but my experience was enough for me to never consider doing it again.........
So, I would decline the invite, or sell it like some others have mentioned.
I ended up killing a pig before I realized exactly what I had just done. While I was walking out it hit me. I had just participated in something that made me feel terrible. Prior to this I had no feeling one way or the other on the subject. I really never knew these types of places existed. The fenced in areas were probably 15-20 acres per lotand each lot had different priced animals in it. Pigs were $400.00. It was not hunting imo.The gutted and hung the pig on a meat pole and quartered it. The owner asked me if I wanted it caped out for a mount! I respectfully declined.
There was a man in the $2,000 pen with a high powered rifle shooting exotics. He killed 5 animals without leaving his "blind". Walked to the lodge and cut a check for each animal and the taxidermy work that was to be done. The owner said he would mail the heads to him after the taxidermy work was done[:@]. The man got into a mini van and drove off.
I was so sick at myself, I refused to even take the meat home.[:'(] I gave it to one of the others in my group. I was so sickend by what I had just participated in that I was angry.[:@] I know all canned hunts are not this bad, but my experience was enough for me to never consider doing it again.........
So, I would decline the invite, or sell it like some others have mentioned.