Do you respect TV shows that promote "Snake Oil"?
#32
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bandera, Texas
Posts: 1,636
RE: Do you respect TV shows that promote "Snake Oil"?
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It is up to you the viewer to tell them what you want! If you don’t like it you can turn it off. As for us (the guys trying to put on a good show) we have to listen or get out of the way and let someone who will put a show on that you the viewer want to watch on the air! It still comes down to who will pay for it the sponsors and the whole point of them advertising on your show is to sell more products! This is a very strange question will you watch a show with no advertising? Would you be willing to send them money to do so? I don’t think so, until there is a better way to pay for air time you have two choices; turn it off or watch and understand this is how we pay the bills!
It is up to you the viewer to tell them what you want! If you don’t like it you can turn it off. As for us (the guys trying to put on a good show) we have to listen or get out of the way and let someone who will put a show on that you the viewer want to watch on the air! It still comes down to who will pay for it the sponsors and the whole point of them advertising on your show is to sell more products! This is a very strange question will you watch a show with no advertising? Would you be willing to send them money to do so? I don’t think so, until there is a better way to pay for air time you have two choices; turn it off or watch and understand this is how we pay the bills!
As for the listening to what veiwers want? Doesn't happen very often. I can write in or call in and say I want more and more of this or that and there is no dollar sign attached. The sponsor calls says, okay I will advertise for the whole year, however, this is how I want the show to go. Money vs no money..... guess who wins!
#33
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Posts: 90
RE: Do you respect TV shows that promote "Snake Oil"?
In responds to what show I am with “The Wildlife T.V. Show” it is a local cable show that runs on Insight cable in Columbus Ohio. We also trade footage with Big Horn Outdoors on MOR. I know that we are more of a local show but I have the same ideas as you when it comes to our show, we try to be as real as we can and just show what happened. We get people who write us or email us and say hey do a show on this or what kind on bow do you shoot or where do you hunt. So we try our best to give the viewers what they want. I was once told that for ever letter you get there are probable 1000 people that feel the same way but just don’t take the time to write. If you would like to learn more about us or Big Horn feel free to visit our websites www.thewildlifeonline.com or www.bighornoutdoors.com
Matt
Matt
#34
RE: Do you respect TV shows that promote "Snake Oil"?
In a way we do send money to watch these shows, we pay for the cable. What happens to our money from the provider to the network/hunting show. You have big shots lining there wallets I would imagine. Maybe they should go to a pay section of cable like Showtime, HBO, exc.
About the carbon clothing, I use baking soda and water then I store my cloths in a large bag with leafs and dirt waffers. Of course I still use old camo, Army cloths. I just recently bought a turkey outfit w/ leafs on it.
About the carbon clothing, I use baking soda and water then I store my cloths in a large bag with leafs and dirt waffers. Of course I still use old camo, Army cloths. I just recently bought a turkey outfit w/ leafs on it.
#36
Banned
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: IOWA/25' UP
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RE: Do you respect TV shows that promote "Snake Oil"?
I am just so passionate about hunting that I have a problem with manufacturers ripping off fellow hunters. Provide me SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of any product and I will be glad to buy it if it is going to help me gain an edge with a whitetail. It does not seem to be too much to ask for PROOF that carbon clothing can SCIENTIFICALLY work as manufacturers claim. I do not want testimonials, I want SCIENTIFIC PROOF. Carbon is a science so PROVE it to me through science. I feel that young and novice hunters feel that just because these "hunting stars" are promoting these carbon products or other snake oils on TV that they are taking advantage of the inexperienced and novice hunter. The carbon experts tell me that a household dryer can not possibly reach the needed temperature to reactivate the clothing or the clothing would burn or melt. Why can't the carbon clothing manufacturers come out and provide proof that the namesayers are wrong? Hunting boots even have this carbon inside of them; tell me how to get a boot liner reactivated in a dryer? Why should I pay extra money for a carbon lining in a boot that can't be removed?
#37
RE: Do you respect TV shows that promote "Snake Oil"?
Well, Don, I held back as long as I could. I have to say you have touched on a very disturbing nerve with me. I agree. These companies are ripping people a new one and not even using lube.LOL
I have to say economics...Schmeconomics. It may be OK to sell something that works and make a huge profit. But when you sell stuff that can't even be "proven" to work and still make a HUGE profit. Well, that's just not right where this ol boy comes from. People get shot for less in these parts of the woods. Can you say "Deliverance". LOL
But, and this is a small but,(No pun intended) I also believe that people will continue to buy into this gimmick no matter who tells them any different. Case in point. There is another type of carbon on the market that has been duping people for years. It's called cigarette smoke. When it first started, no one knew if it would work or not. Now everyone has scientific proof that it does work(at what it does) and yet millions still pay millions to use it. Now I am in no wise bashing anyone for smoking. If that is your vise, so be it. What I am saying is, if Science itself proves something to work or not work, the general public may or may not approve. And to top it off it does not matter if the scientific results are good or bad. There are those who kill deer with it, and those who kill deer without it. There are those who die from cancer who smoke and those who die from lung cancer and never smoke a day in their life. So, what do you do. You decide for yourself and preach what you believe. If others follow suit, so be it. If they don't, then, well, they just have a lot more money and a lot less sense than we do.LOL
Sincerely, LT
I have to say economics...Schmeconomics. It may be OK to sell something that works and make a huge profit. But when you sell stuff that can't even be "proven" to work and still make a HUGE profit. Well, that's just not right where this ol boy comes from. People get shot for less in these parts of the woods. Can you say "Deliverance". LOL
But, and this is a small but,(No pun intended) I also believe that people will continue to buy into this gimmick no matter who tells them any different. Case in point. There is another type of carbon on the market that has been duping people for years. It's called cigarette smoke. When it first started, no one knew if it would work or not. Now everyone has scientific proof that it does work(at what it does) and yet millions still pay millions to use it. Now I am in no wise bashing anyone for smoking. If that is your vise, so be it. What I am saying is, if Science itself proves something to work or not work, the general public may or may not approve. And to top it off it does not matter if the scientific results are good or bad. There are those who kill deer with it, and those who kill deer without it. There are those who die from cancer who smoke and those who die from lung cancer and never smoke a day in their life. So, what do you do. You decide for yourself and preach what you believe. If others follow suit, so be it. If they don't, then, well, they just have a lot more money and a lot less sense than we do.LOL
Sincerely, LT
#39
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Heaven is my home, temporarily residing in WNY :)
Posts: 6,679
RE: Do you respect TV shows that promote "Snake Oil"?
If I had a show, I don't think I would push products I didn't believe in. I am not saying I wouldn't try everything that came down the pipe, I would, as that is what a cutting edge hunting show should do. When air time came, I would like to think I wouldn't be a sellout and promote a product I didn't believe in .... money or no.....
So to answer your question Don ..... absolutely not
So to answer your question Don ..... absolutely not
#40
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 189
RE: Do you respect TV shows that promote "Snake Oil"?
did you guys see the road trips episode last season where Michael Waddell had on his hunter safety system vest and the lanyard wasn't attached to the tree? Don't get me wrong that is my favorite show, but I thought that was funny.