The way the other guy hunts
03-06-2007, 08:38 PM
#21
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RE: The way the other guy hunts
I think what Charlie was trying to get at - is if there is a large amount of people in a certain area that have similar feelings - do you try to do something to change some things that you don't like. Just as a hypothetical example, if baiting is legal in you area - but no one does it and most everyone is against it, do you try to change it? We were discussing something similar in another post and this came up as side talk. Do ya'll understand the idea? Basically - are you willing to lobby with a group of hunters from your area to get something changed if the need arose?
How about this, again hypothetical, if there are a bunch of guys who do a ton of deer drives on the property next to yours, would you approach them sometime and just ask for them to hold off a drive for a few hours so you could get some quality time in? Consider offering a trade possibly? Etc. Etc. Etc. The whole idea is what would you do if you wanted something changed around you?
How about this, again hypothetical, if there are a bunch of guys who do a ton of deer drives on the property next to yours, would you approach them sometime and just ask for them to hold off a drive for a few hours so you could get some quality time in? Consider offering a trade possibly? Etc. Etc. Etc. The whole idea is what would you do if you wanted something changed around you?
03-06-2007, 08:41 PM
#22
Nontypical Buck
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RE: The way the other guy hunts
The golden triangle always had big bucks. The QDM just produced more of them, but is that high amount of big bucks a natural phenomenon, I doubt it. If QDM goes state wide great I'll abide by it. I personally won't shoot smaller than a six point,but even thats too small for the type of QDM practiced at the leased areas. Remember their motivation is money! The large deer are a commodity.
03-06-2007, 09:21 PM
#23
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RE: The way the other guy hunts
ORIGINAL: Dr Andy
The golden triangle always had big bucks.
The golden triangle always had big bucks.
03-07-2007, 05:42 AM
#25
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RE: The way the other guy hunts
I've only hunted here in suburban Chicago,so maybe I'm not seeing what you're seeing,we don't have a gun season here. But I do also hunt in WI and during gun season there it's like a war broke out. Well I gotta tell ya I've seen some big bucks and small ones and in-between ones. I just don't see a problem here.
03-07-2007, 06:10 AM
#26
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RE: The way the other guy hunts
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If QDM is "mandatory"....
It never was sowhy try and make it mandatory now anywhere?
If QDM is "mandatory"....
It never was sowhy try and make it mandatory now anywhere?
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Again....there's a reason the extra doe permits were issued. Sounds to me like you have piss poor neighbors, too.
It was a Hypothetical question,why would they be piss poor? What their doing is legal,they might really need the meet.
Again....there's a reason the extra doe permits were issued. Sounds to me like you have piss poor neighbors, too.
It was a Hypothetical question,why would they be piss poor? What their doing is legal,they might really need the meet.
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Whether I think what they're doing is "hunting" or "ethical" has little to do with whether or not I'd support their right to do it.....as long as it's legal. I would.
You think that is good for hunting?
Whether I think what they're doing is "hunting" or "ethical" has little to do with whether or not I'd support their right to do it.....as long as it's legal. I would.
You think that is good for hunting?
03-07-2007, 06:27 AM
#27
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RE: The way the other guy hunts
Forget about Antler restrictions and mandatory QDM. Make rules up for your own property and don't worry about how the other guy hunts. He wants to drop button bucks or 1.5 yr old deer. Don't worry about it.
Once again what I posed was hypothetical IF you were to have neighbors shooting as many does as possible it's legal so don't worry about it. You understand?
My personal opinion on the subject wouldn't interfere with me defending their right to participate.
03-07-2007, 06:29 AM
#28
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RE: The way the other guy hunts
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
[ol][*]Forget about Antler restrictions and mandatory QDM. Make rules up for your own property and don't worry about how the other guy hunts. He wants to drop button bucks or 1.5 yr old deer. Don't worry about it.[*]Baiting where it is legal keep it that way. If it effects your land because your neighbor does it. Don't worry about just bait to.[*]Somebody wants to fence in 5 acres jam it to over flowing with trophy bucks and charge people to shoot them,don't worry about it.[*]If the state sets increasing large number of doe permits and your neighbor decides he wants to shoot ever deer that he can legally shoot and then allows every Tom, Dick and Harry to come and put drives on from sun up to sun down. Don't worry about it.[*]When your sitting in your tree stand and the neighbors kid decide to take the four wheeler to their stand at prime time don't worry about it.[*]When a buck walks by with an arrow sticking out of it's neck because the guy on the next lease believes that shot is lethal don't worry about it.[/ol]
Any other things we shouldn't worry about what the other guy is doing?
[ol][*]Forget about Antler restrictions and mandatory QDM. Make rules up for your own property and don't worry about how the other guy hunts. He wants to drop button bucks or 1.5 yr old deer. Don't worry about it.[*]Baiting where it is legal keep it that way. If it effects your land because your neighbor does it. Don't worry about just bait to.[*]Somebody wants to fence in 5 acres jam it to over flowing with trophy bucks and charge people to shoot them,don't worry about it.[*]If the state sets increasing large number of doe permits and your neighbor decides he wants to shoot ever deer that he can legally shoot and then allows every Tom, Dick and Harry to come and put drives on from sun up to sun down. Don't worry about it.[*]When your sitting in your tree stand and the neighbors kid decide to take the four wheeler to their stand at prime time don't worry about it.[*]When a buck walks by with an arrow sticking out of it's neck because the guy on the next lease believes that shot is lethal don't worry about it.[/ol]
Any other things we shouldn't worry about what the other guy is doing?
03-07-2007, 06:42 AM
#30
Boone & Crockett
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RE: The way the other guy hunts
Funny how you take 6 items that YOU don't like and post them as though they are the scourge of our sport.
Baiting, nevr been around it. I would voive my opinion against it if was allowed in NY.
5acre pens definately against.
The neighbors kid scenario. I have had a family walk right behind me with their kids and dogs,and dropped a doe 20 minutes later.The land owner let's people walk through,no big deal.
Neck shot's. I am against but I know you can't mandate what shot's people take.
As long as it's legal hold true for many just as long as everyone does what they want. Same as ethics.
I'm just saying if your part of the big tent group you really can't criticize much or look to change things. Because if it's legal already don't worry about it.