atlasman

It has a lot to do with it.........it marks a clear distinction between somthing you NEED to do and something you WANT to do.


Saying anyone on these boards is siding with the anti's is beyond rediculous. Again, maybe you should stick around longer then a month before making such foolish comments.

I support the killing of urban deer as population control 100%..........trying to pass it off to the public as bowhunting??? That's another story.

I have no idea what the rest of your post means because you butchered the quote feature.

PABuck_HNTR

When I said this I didn't mean to sound as if I was against it completely.
I'm not. Just not what I'd be interested in. I think there is a need for herd reduction in alot of areas and I wouldn't be against Bowhunters getting more opportunities to participate instead of wasting tax dollars to hire the services out.

PreacherTony

Doug, your quote was fine ...you stated for you. You did not include everyone in it like Mr. Atlas did by his blanket statements.

There is a HUGE difference in your post and his .....

atlasman

Presenting this as bowhunting makes it a blanket statement that affects us ALL.........apparently you are OK with some blanket statements but not others. Weird.

You do realize that many of the does will be pregnant right now right?

Ever been on one of these shoots preach???.......I have......what are you basing your opinion on??


If a town was over run by rats and you proposed rat "hunts" you would be laughed out of the room. The deer NEED to be killed.........people WANT to hunt them.......a key difference that eludes you. I suggest you attend some meetings where this subject is discussed before you try to pretend anyone but hunters want these deer hunted. They want them dead.......period. In the fastest way possible that causes them the least amount of trouble.


100% true


I don't.

aeroslinger

Another reason, and a very significant one, for bow as opposed to gun to reduce urban deer populations is the fact that most people living in these areas do not wish any firearms being discharged within proximity due to the chance of errant bullets. NOBODY can 100% assure that this would never happen. As a suburban resident, bowhunter, rifle hunter, husband and father of 3 children, I would never condone the use of firearms within range of my home or anyone else's. The number of capable, experienced, ethical bowhunters I know are much greater than the number of gun hunters I know who I would feel comfortable with hunting in urban areas. Bowhunters, in general, possess a much better knowledge of hunting prey in close quarters and making clean, ethical kills. That's what they do. And yes, it does take some skill - even to take tame, pregnant does. Is it being flown in to a remote, uninhabited wilderness and spending weeks stalking game? Nobody said it was. But it is another form of hunting which provides a community service as well as an opportunity for some hunters to harvest some meat. One final question. If you lived in an urban area, would you feel more comfortable with a reckless/inexperienced bowhunter or a reckless/inexperienced gun hunter? Even if someone was to tell me gun hunters were certified, I would never assume it was all good and safe. Most of us have seen that movie before.

atlasman

Does anyone know if this has ever happened? Has a sharpshooter ever wounded or killed a person during an organized urban deer cull?? I did a search and couldn't find anything but it would be an interesting read. Every instance I am aware of consists of the deer being baited to designated safe areas and shot from elevated locations.


Neither..........I don't want to be around a reckless/inexperienced person with any weapon.

PreacherTony

atlas, where did I say anything about what it was? C'mon now, maybe you've been her too long and have eaten to many of your feet

Do you realize most does you kill after the rut are pregnant also??? What does that have to do with anything?

Nope, but you labeling it a ghastly task is YOUR opinion ...


The whole thread is about a way to cull the deer herd ... if it can be done by extending seasons and bag limits ... let's do it. We have had sniper bullets hit houses here in WNY ..... kinda doesn't qualify for "least amount of trouble"

OH, and, as far as the rats ... not a good analogy ... nice try though!


Your opinion .....ergo, not 100% true

It's all relative atlas ..... "as part of our reputation" ... depends upon who you talk to as to what they think about our sport ... an extended season is not going to change it .....

npaden

Not exactly the same thing but there was a very positive article in our local paper last week about bringing in a bow hunter to take out a wild pig that was causing a lot of damage at one of the local golf courses.

Here's the complete article - http://lubbockonline.com/stories/022207/lif_022207029.shtml

Not exactly the same but it doesn't seem tomake the bow hunter out as a bad guy.

FWIW, Nathan

atlasman

Wasn't talking about you.........there are plenty of links in this thread to urban bowhunting "groups".

You'll find out when you open them up


Did I present it as someone else's??


Do you have links to the articles about the bullets hitting houses.......I would really like to read that..........because it NEVER gets mentioned when these matters are discussed at town meetings.


Why not??.......because hunting rats would be silly right?? Thanks for proving my point


Explain to me how you are gonna convince an intelligent adult that a deer standing there staring at them needs to be "hunted".

PreacherTony

ya know what atlas, you proved most peoples point when you did what you did .... you lost bubba