REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
#31
RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
I think they use some of the money to cover the cost of processing the deer and giving the meat to charity
Heck I've never enjoyed killing them, Charlie.....
#32
Giant Nontypical
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RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
ORIGINAL: Cougars09
did too!!
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
did not! [8D]
ORIGINAL: Cougars09
and another bickering contest has been started [:@]
and another bickering contest has been started [:@]
#33
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RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
ORIGINAL: Dwaefking
Rifles with silencers????
Rifles with silencers????
Look, there is a reason why archery equipment is chosen as No. 1 method for controlling urban deer populations. a stray arrow shot from a treestand at ground is much much more unlikely to ricochete like a high powered rifle bullet can, thus minimizing the potential of danger to harm property, pets or human beings.
You should be aware that bowhunting as a urban wildlife management tool is a great opportunity to present to the public why there should even be archery hunting.
Janez
Janez
It is what it is..........the deer are there and they need to be controlled. I personally have no desire to shoot tame pregnant does......and I believe that the public image would be to abhor any group that would not only volunteer for such a ghastly task but be willing to pay for it (like previously mentioned). That is why the job is better left to a nameless, faceless group. Begging to be part of a slaughter makes us look bad. JMHO
#35
RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
I have no problem with the hunts as long as they are well organized and trained. I have never participated in one nor had the opportunity. All of the hunts I have heard about have been approved by the local area they are in otherwise they can not do it. Because the local people agree that hunters paying to control the deer is better than their taxes paying for sharpshooters. The few that hollar are the same PETA or similar ones that always hollar and I could care less what they think.
Always a lot of generalizations on this board. I am sure people who always hunt urban areas approve more of this than guys who hunt way out in the boonies who have no idea of what they speek. I hunt a lot of suburbs and hardly are the deer tame!! In fact they are extremely dificult because of so many variables. I do not speek for all these places I am sure some are. In NY here it is illegal to bait or feed deer at all and you can not have any as a petso that helps. Just my 2 cents.
Always a lot of generalizations on this board. I am sure people who always hunt urban areas approve more of this than guys who hunt way out in the boonies who have no idea of what they speek. I hunt a lot of suburbs and hardly are the deer tame!! In fact they are extremely dificult because of so many variables. I do not speek for all these places I am sure some are. In NY here it is illegal to bait or feed deer at all and you can not have any as a petso that helps. Just my 2 cents.
#36
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RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
ORIGINAL: Fletch NY
Because the local people agree that hunters paying to control the deer is better than their taxes paying for sharpshooters.
Because the local people agree that hunters paying to control the deer is better than their taxes paying for sharpshooters.
#37
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RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
ORIGINAL: atlasman
That is a fallacy.......on average the cost is about $25/deer (including processing). The cost is minimal and amounts to pennies per citizen. Money is not the issue.
ORIGINAL: Fletch NY
Because the local people agree that hunters paying to control the deer is better than their taxes paying for sharpshooters.
Because the local people agree that hunters paying to control the deer is better than their taxes paying for sharpshooters.
http://www.bowhuntersalliance.org/readarticle.php?article_id=26
http://www.strictlybowhunting.com/Anov01issue/urbandeercontrol.htm
http://outdoors.mainetoday.com/hunting/060930citydeer.shtml
http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/archery-hunting.php
http://www.ci.burnsville.mn.us/government/Departments/natresbowhunting.htm
http://dpll.si/files/Audubon%20society%20-%20lov%20z%20lokom.pdf
Janez
#38
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RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
ORIGINAL: Dwaefking
Hey, the expenses are between 200 and 250 $ per deer shot by snypers. although I agree that probably the whole thing is not about money.
Hey, the expenses are between 200 and 250 $ per deer shot by snypers. although I agree that probably the whole thing is not about money.
I am fond to urban bowhunting as a game management tool.
This study shows controlled "hunts" as being no more cost effective then sharpshooters and no where near as productive. The only difference was they charged the hunters.
Wildlife Society bulletin (Wildl. Soc. bull.) ISSN0091-7648
Do we REALLY want to be known as a group that is willing to pay for the chance to shoot and kill the deer people see around their yards, the park, and the golf course??
I can think of no worse publicity for our sport.
#39
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RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
Can we agree to disagree? I am pro and you are contra. I think it is a great way in increasing bowhunting opportunities hand in hand with urban game management solving, you think it is bad because it shows bowhunters as shooters of deer...
I do not have access to the Wildlife Society Bulletin you noted, but i do have the Wildlife Society Technical Review 99-1 1999 (The Role of Bowhunting in
Game Management) and a print copy of an article "Effects of archery hunting on movement and activity of female white-tailed deer in an urban landscape" from W.S. Bulletin 1999, 27 (2) pages 433 - 440.
I must also add that I come from a country in which we are not (yet) allowed to hunt with our bows other than at some privately fenced in areas. I am a president of a Slovenian Bowhunters Organization and a graduated forestry engineer so I know s little something about game management but I collected the data that states 200-250$ per snyper shot deer, from the internet article. Urban bowhunting is one of our strongest arguments here why bowhunting should be legal.
Best Regards!
Janez
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I do not have access to the Wildlife Society Bulletin you noted, but i do have the Wildlife Society Technical Review 99-1 1999 (The Role of Bowhunting in
Game Management) and a print copy of an article "Effects of archery hunting on movement and activity of female white-tailed deer in an urban landscape" from W.S. Bulletin 1999, 27 (2) pages 433 - 440.
I must also add that I come from a country in which we are not (yet) allowed to hunt with our bows other than at some privately fenced in areas. I am a president of a Slovenian Bowhunters Organization and a graduated forestry engineer so I know s little something about game management but I collected the data that states 200-250$ per snyper shot deer, from the internet article. Urban bowhunting is one of our strongest arguments here why bowhunting should be legal.
Best Regards!
Janez
http://dpll.si/
#40
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RE: REAL bowhunting business (extend your season)
ORIGINAL: Dwaefking
Can we agree to disagree? I am pro and you are contra. I think it is a great way in increasing bowhunting opportunities hand in hand with urban game management solving, you think it is bad because it shows bowhunters as shooters of deer...
I do not have access to the Wildlife Society Bulletin you noted, but i do have the Wildlife Society Technical Review 99-1 1999 (The Role of Bowhunting in
Game Management) and a print copy of an article "Effects of archery hunting on movement and activity of female white-tailed deer in an urban landscape" from W.S. Bulletin 1999, 27 (2) pages 433 - 440.
I must also add that I come from a country in which we are not (yet) allowed to hunt with our bows other than at some privately fenced in areas. I am a president of a Slovenian Bowhunters Organization and a graduated forestry engineer so I know s little something about game management but I collected the data that states 200-250$ per snyper shot deer, from the internet article. Urban bowhunting is one of our strongest arguments here why bowhunting should be legal.
Best Regards!
Janez
http://dpll.si/
Can we agree to disagree? I am pro and you are contra. I think it is a great way in increasing bowhunting opportunities hand in hand with urban game management solving, you think it is bad because it shows bowhunters as shooters of deer...
I do not have access to the Wildlife Society Bulletin you noted, but i do have the Wildlife Society Technical Review 99-1 1999 (The Role of Bowhunting in
Game Management) and a print copy of an article "Effects of archery hunting on movement and activity of female white-tailed deer in an urban landscape" from W.S. Bulletin 1999, 27 (2) pages 433 - 440.
I must also add that I come from a country in which we are not (yet) allowed to hunt with our bows other than at some privately fenced in areas. I am a president of a Slovenian Bowhunters Organization and a graduated forestry engineer so I know s little something about game management but I collected the data that states 200-250$ per snyper shot deer, from the internet article. Urban bowhunting is one of our strongest arguments here why bowhunting should be legal.
Best Regards!
Janez
http://dpll.si/
atlas .... you sound like you almost take the side of the anti's with some of the comments you make by setting yourself aside from the majority of us ....
"tame pregant deer" ....
"a ghastly task " ....
"to pass it off as hunting" ....
"you are never gonna convince an intelligent adult that the deer that was staring at them yesterday on the 8th tee box needs to be "hunted". It just makes us look foolish.......and even worse it makes us look like the EXACT thing we do not want to be perceived as........guys who simply like to kill stuff."
"I don't want that as part of our reputation"
"a ghastly task " ....
"to pass it off as hunting" ....
"you are never gonna convince an intelligent adult that the deer that was staring at them yesterday on the 8th tee box needs to be "hunted". It just makes us look foolish.......and even worse it makes us look like the EXACT thing we do not want to be perceived as........guys who simply like to kill stuff."
"I don't want that as part of our reputation"
I understand an opinion, but you have gone beyond that ...... I believe it may be because of the author.....