The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
02-01-2007, 08:10 PM
#31
Giant Nontypical
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
ORIGINAL: drhntr178
MAny posts mentioned the time scouting, hanging stands, and work put in before season as hunting. My question is what about when you go w/ a friend to his property and hunt out of his stand, you did no partthe preseason stuff,Is this still hunting??? Or what about a child who goes with his dad, this child has done nothing but sight in their rifle or bow, is that hunting?
In my book they both are hunting. I also believe that the size of the fence does matter? Heck, we're all hunting captive deer if you think about it, captive within north america.
MAny posts mentioned the time scouting, hanging stands, and work put in before season as hunting. My question is what about when you go w/ a friend to his property and hunt out of his stand, you did no partthe preseason stuff,Is this still hunting??? Or what about a child who goes with his dad, this child has done nothing but sight in their rifle or bow, is that hunting?
In my book they both are hunting. I also believe that the size of the fence does matter? Heck, we're all hunting captive deer if you think about it, captive within north america.
02-01-2007, 08:15 PM
#32
Giant Nontypical
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
ORIGINAL: atlasman
So a 10,000 acre fenced ranch is the same as a 50 acre fenced pen in your opinion?
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
Yes IMO .... Fair chase
ORIGINAL: atlasman
So..........is it the fence that makes it not "hunting"??
If so why?
ORIGINAL: goherd1111
If its not high fenced and the animal is taken legally and ethically its hunting! JMHO!!!!!
If its not high fenced and the animal is taken legally and ethically its hunting! JMHO!!!!!
If so why?
02-01-2007, 08:17 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
see post #28
ORIGINAL: drhntr178
MAny posts mentioned the time scouting, hanging stands, and work put in before season as hunting. My question is what about when you go w/ a friend to his property and hunt out of his stand, you did no partthe preseason stuff,Is this still hunting??? Or what about a child who goes with his dad, this child has done nothing but sight in their rifle or bow, is that hunting?
In my book they both are hunting. I also believe that the size of the fence does matter? Heck, we're all hunting captive deer if you think about it, captive within north america.
MAny posts mentioned the time scouting, hanging stands, and work put in before season as hunting. My question is what about when you go w/ a friend to his property and hunt out of his stand, you did no partthe preseason stuff,Is this still hunting??? Or what about a child who goes with his dad, this child has done nothing but sight in their rifle or bow, is that hunting?
In my book they both are hunting. I also believe that the size of the fence does matter? Heck, we're all hunting captive deer if you think about it, captive within north america.
02-01-2007, 08:24 PM
#34
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
ORIGINAL: drhntr178
I...........type.......to.......sloooowww.
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
see post #28
ORIGINAL: drhntr178
MAny posts mentioned the time scouting, hanging stands, and work put in before season as hunting. My question is what about when you go w/ a friend to his property and hunt out of his stand, you did no partthe preseason stuff,Is this still hunting??? Or what about a child who goes with his dad, this child has done nothing but sight in their rifle or bow, is that hunting?
In my book they both are hunting. I also believe that the size of the fence does matter? Heck, we're all hunting captive deer if you think about it, captive within north america.
MAny posts mentioned the time scouting, hanging stands, and work put in before season as hunting. My question is what about when you go w/ a friend to his property and hunt out of his stand, you did no partthe preseason stuff,Is this still hunting??? Or what about a child who goes with his dad, this child has done nothing but sight in their rifle or bow, is that hunting?
In my book they both are hunting. I also believe that the size of the fence does matter? Heck, we're all hunting captive deer if you think about it, captive within north america.
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02-01-2007, 08:34 PM
#35
Boone & Crockett
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
Here you go.
If you are having fun in the outdoors and obeying the game laws call it what you want. I do not have to answer to anyone, so I really do not care what anybody calls it. I think davemill said it best "I hunt for myself".
Maybe one day we will learn this, and let folks hunt with the way they want without judging, analyzing or picking apart how they choose to hunt.
Just think we use to hunt with a stick to survive, if hunters of the past acted as we do today, we would be extinct!!
Time for a vacation
If you are having fun in the outdoors and obeying the game laws call it what you want. I do not have to answer to anyone, so I really do not care what anybody calls it. I think davemill said it best "I hunt for myself".
Maybe one day we will learn this, and let folks hunt with the way they want without judging, analyzing or picking apart how they choose to hunt.
Just think we use to hunt with a stick to survive, if hunters of the past acted as we do today, we would be extinct!!
Time for a vacation
02-01-2007, 09:00 PM
#36
Nontypical Buck
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
For me,a "hunt"isa challenge. It is something I've work hard for. There is a degree of difficulty provided by the hunter as well as his environment. Within a "hunt", there are no guarantees...
(This past October, I drove solo 18 hours round trip to hunt for 5 hours in Oklahoma. No, I did not hang a stand or clear limbs-the drive was hard enough in a weekend. I shot a mature deer from the ground with my bow. The challenge and love for hunting was enough to get me there. Yes, I used land provided by a friend...)
For me, a "Shoot" is still a challenge. But, I expend very little energy participating. There is a degree of difficulty provided by the hunter as well as the environment. Within a "shoot", there are usually guarantees...
(Duck/goose shooting from a blind on the North Platt river or in one of our many corn fields)
Both are legal and both have their place. If you get something good from either, then by all means Play! If you don't, then find something more suitable for your time. We have so little of it on this earth!
(This past October, I drove solo 18 hours round trip to hunt for 5 hours in Oklahoma. No, I did not hang a stand or clear limbs-the drive was hard enough in a weekend. I shot a mature deer from the ground with my bow. The challenge and love for hunting was enough to get me there. Yes, I used land provided by a friend...)
For me, a "Shoot" is still a challenge. But, I expend very little energy participating. There is a degree of difficulty provided by the hunter as well as the environment. Within a "shoot", there are usually guarantees...
(Duck/goose shooting from a blind on the North Platt river or in one of our many corn fields)
Both are legal and both have their place. If you get something good from either, then by all means Play! If you don't, then find something more suitable for your time. We have so little of it on this earth!
02-01-2007, 09:15 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
IMO The hunt is everything that goes into attempting to kill an animal. Shooting to me is the physical act of releasing an arrow or pulling the trigger.
02-01-2007, 09:19 PM
#38
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry
For me,a "hunt"isa challenge. It is something I've work hard for. There is a degree of difficult provided by the hunter as well as his environment. Within a "hunt", there are no guarantees...
(This past October, I drove solo 18 hours round trip to hunt for 5 hours in Oklahoma. No, I did not hang a stand or clear limbs-the drive was hard enough in a weekend. I shot a mature deer from the ground with my bow. The challenge and love for hunting was enough to get me there. Yes, I used land provided by a friend...)
For me, a "Shoot" is still a challenge. But, I expend very little energy participating. There is a degree of difficult provided by the hunter as well as the environment. Within a "shoot", there are usually guarantees...
(Duck/goose shooting from a blind on the North Platt river or in one of our many corn fields)
Both are legal and both have their place. If you get something good from either, then by all means Play! If you don't, then find something more suitable for your time. We have so little of it on this earth!
For me,a "hunt"isa challenge. It is something I've work hard for. There is a degree of difficult provided by the hunter as well as his environment. Within a "hunt", there are no guarantees...
(This past October, I drove solo 18 hours round trip to hunt for 5 hours in Oklahoma. No, I did not hang a stand or clear limbs-the drive was hard enough in a weekend. I shot a mature deer from the ground with my bow. The challenge and love for hunting was enough to get me there. Yes, I used land provided by a friend...)
For me, a "Shoot" is still a challenge. But, I expend very little energy participating. There is a degree of difficult provided by the hunter as well as the environment. Within a "shoot", there are usually guarantees...
(Duck/goose shooting from a blind on the North Platt river or in one of our many corn fields)
Both are legal and both have their place. If you get something good from either, then by all means Play! If you don't, then find something more suitable for your time. We have so little of it on this earth!
02-01-2007, 09:36 PM
#39
Dominant Buck
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
Ya'll worry to much. It's suppose to be fun. If you're all worried about how the other guy does it... you really aren't having much fun.
02-01-2007, 09:38 PM
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RE: The subjective nature of what is considered "hunting" vs "shooting"
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ORIGINAL: indianahunter83
I define hunting as fair chase
What is your definition of that? (not P+Y or B+C)
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un baited,
Do you consider food plots, scents, and calls as "bait"??
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and shots inside of 100 yards. IMO
What is it about shots over 100 yards that makes it no longer "hunting" in your opinion??
ORIGINAL: indianahunter83
I define hunting as fair chase
What is your definition of that? (not P+Y or B+C)
quote:
un baited,
Do you consider food plots, scents, and calls as "bait"??
quote:
and shots inside of 100 yards. IMO
What is it about shots over 100 yards that makes it no longer "hunting" in your opinion??