dropaway or WB
01-18-2007, 05:59 PM
#51
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 4,668
RE: dropaway or WB
ORIGINAL: petasux
like it or not there is a certain amount of noise associated with them but it can be kept pretty minimal.
like it or not there is a certain amount of noise associated with them but it can be kept pretty minimal.
We still have one guy who comes over and shoots with an older Bodoodle with worn fork tamers..........that thing is like nails on a chalk board.
Noise is something EVERY hunter should be concerned about........My experience over the last 4 years of shooting a WB is that fortunately it is not something I need to worry about.
01-18-2007, 06:15 PM
#52
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 4,668
RE: dropaway or WB
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.a...age=1&key=
This is a link to a thread on this site where 6 members have problems with the QAD rest............7 considering Muzzyman had his break on him shortly after. You will also notice that the picture of the rest on the front page of the QAD site shows the rest covered in felt/moleskin.........obviously there are noise issues with this rest also or the company would not feel the need to ensconce the thing in velvet.
Now I am sure I could look and find threads full of guys griping about WB's too..............the point is that EVERY rest has good and bad points.
When taking the whole picture into consideration I believe the WB has more to offer as a hunting rest.
Thousands of animals of all kinds fall to the WB year after year.........it is probably the best selling hunting rest of all time (just a guess).....tournaments are won in Vegas with it.........our very own dukemichaels even manages to kill some pretty darn big bucks with it (damn deer nerds [8D]). It's a great hunting rest.
This is a link to a thread on this site where 6 members have problems with the QAD rest............7 considering Muzzyman had his break on him shortly after. You will also notice that the picture of the rest on the front page of the QAD site shows the rest covered in felt/moleskin.........obviously there are noise issues with this rest also or the company would not feel the need to ensconce the thing in velvet.
Now I am sure I could look and find threads full of guys griping about WB's too..............the point is that EVERY rest has good and bad points.
When taking the whole picture into consideration I believe the WB has more to offer as a hunting rest.
Thousands of animals of all kinds fall to the WB year after year.........it is probably the best selling hunting rest of all time (just a guess).....tournaments are won in Vegas with it.........our very own dukemichaels even manages to kill some pretty darn big bucks with it (damn deer nerds [8D]). It's a great hunting rest.
01-18-2007, 07:00 PM
#53
Site Bouncer
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,099
RE: dropaway or WB
ORIGINAL: 5575gb
Just went from a WB deluxe to a Ripcord, shouldhave done this LONG ago.
There is no comparison really, full containment, silent and no vane contact mmmm.
Laying your bow in your lap?? There's no way I'd becaught dead in a tree with my bow in my lap. Go get yourself a realtree bow hanger with the two joints, you'll have that bow right in front of you at all times.
Just went from a WB deluxe to a Ripcord, shouldhave done this LONG ago.
There is no comparison really, full containment, silent and no vane contact mmmm.
Laying your bow in your lap?? There's no way I'd becaught dead in a tree with my bow in my lap. Go get yourself a realtree bow hanger with the two joints, you'll have that bow right in front of you at all times.
So there is no way you will be caught dead with your bow on your lap....huh......so you have NEVER had a deer sneak in without you knowing?
It does not matter if I'm sitting or standing my hand is ALWAYS on the bow grip. It's just the way I have always hunted. The least amount of movement the better. Most of the time I also have my release attached to, and you can bet your a$$ that I am standing with bow in hand and release attached during the last "magic hour"
You hunt the way you want, I'll hunt the way I want.If you want some metal hinged arm sticking out in front of you just so you have your bow at close reach fine, but don't come crying here saying you hit it with your bow (or yourself) or the deer saw you reaching for your bow...... Or better yet, saw you trying to move some silly double hinged POS out of the way so you could take a shot because the deer just happened to come in on the side that your bow hanger is on and is now between you and it!
2 sides to every coin.
I'll just keepmy bow in hand with the arrow safely enclosed in a Whisker Biscuit rest thank you.
01-20-2007, 07:32 AM
#56
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,925
RE: dropaway or WB
Atlasman, my post wasnt directed at you personally.Matter of fact I didnt read 90% of the posts in this topic.The original post asked a question, I gave an honest answer based on my experience with the rest.If Im going to recomend a product to someone Ill certainly point out any potential drawbacks it may have and dont feel obligated to stand on my head defending it even if its one I use personally and frequently.I have no experience with drop aways, I cant give an opinion on them and I wont give a biased comparison on them just because I use a WB.I sure the hell dont need a lecture on physics, I dont care how many arrows you have shot, and Im not even sure what the number of guys you practice with has to do with the conversation.Dont know what you read into that comment you quoted from me but get over it, all you did was went into a long rant that basically agreed with what I said, whats your point?Theres a reason posts like this always go to hell in a hurry andpeople pushing thier favorite product like they own stock in the company is usually most of it.
01-20-2007, 02:26 PM
#57
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 4,668
RE: dropaway or WB
ORIGINAL: petasux
Atlasman, my post wasnt directed at you personally.
Atlasman, my post wasnt directed at you personally.
Dont know what you read into that comment you quoted from me but get over it, all you did was went into a long rant that basically agreed with what I said, whats your point?
Theres a reason posts like this always go to hell in a hurry andpeople pushing thier favorite product like they own stock in the company is usually most of it.
01-21-2007, 06:49 AM
#58
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,925
RE: dropaway or WB
Anyone with even a BASIC understanding of physics can comprehend that dragging an arrow for 20+ inches over ANY other material will make some amout of noise.
And on page 4 you had already made your point about the noise or lack of noise with a WB.
Noise is a non issue..........I have never had a deer even flinch when I drew.......and there is no moleskin anywhere on my bow.
01-21-2007, 10:51 AM
#59
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 4,668
RE: dropaway or WB
ORIGINAL: petasux
Your post came across as being kinda condecending weather you meant it to or not.
Your post came across as being kinda condecending weather you meant it to or not.
And on page 4 you had already made your point about the noise or lack of noise with a WB.
Thats why I thought you were directing somethingat me.
Anyway, it doesnt matter, if I misunderstood your post I apologize.
01-21-2007, 10:54 AM
#60
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Illinois
Posts: 175
RE: dropaway or WB
ORIGINAL: in da woods
I have shot w/a fall away for years. I was at a proshop last week, & shot the owner's bow, which had a WB on it. The arrows had a flat trajectory in a 20yd range. The owner recommended it for hunting, & a fall away for 3-D shoots. I bought a Bowtech Tribute that day & had put a WB on it. I shot about 20 arrrows & 2 tell u the truth, I could not even see the arrows go down range, they were shooting just as flat as my fall away. The one advantage of the WB is that it you don't have to worry about your arrow falling off. Disadvantage is that you may lose a little speed w/the vanes going thru. Obviously due to friction from contact. I did not notice any obvious noise when shooting. I also had a friend listen while I shot, & he didn't hear anything either. Now whether a deer hears it or not, is anyone's guess. I guess it falls onto what is your primary purpose for the bow hunting/leagues. There is a thread here somewhere that recommended using Blazer Vanes w/a WB, which I have heard the same from 2 proshop owners. This is the combo that the proshop owner, I was at, shoots himself for hunting. That is what I went with, & am very happy w/the combo. Some have said that using larger vanes w/the WB tears them up, which is why the Blazers work better. Not only are the smaller, but they seem a thicker, & are supposed to help plane out broadheads better. I guess go to a shop & have them put one on & try it out. Good luck.
I have shot w/a fall away for years. I was at a proshop last week, & shot the owner's bow, which had a WB on it. The arrows had a flat trajectory in a 20yd range. The owner recommended it for hunting, & a fall away for 3-D shoots. I bought a Bowtech Tribute that day & had put a WB on it. I shot about 20 arrrows & 2 tell u the truth, I could not even see the arrows go down range, they were shooting just as flat as my fall away. The one advantage of the WB is that it you don't have to worry about your arrow falling off. Disadvantage is that you may lose a little speed w/the vanes going thru. Obviously due to friction from contact. I did not notice any obvious noise when shooting. I also had a friend listen while I shot, & he didn't hear anything either. Now whether a deer hears it or not, is anyone's guess. I guess it falls onto what is your primary purpose for the bow hunting/leagues. There is a thread here somewhere that recommended using Blazer Vanes w/a WB, which I have heard the same from 2 proshop owners. This is the combo that the proshop owner, I was at, shoots himself for hunting. That is what I went with, & am very happy w/the combo. Some have said that using larger vanes w/the WB tears them up, which is why the Blazers work better. Not only are the smaller, but they seem a thicker, & are supposed to help plane out broadheads better. I guess go to a shop & have them put one on & try it out. Good luck.