2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
#22
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,862
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
This statement speaks loudly of the mentality that is present.
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This statement speaks loudly and requires no further comment. It is self-explanatory.
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In my time, I too have made mistakes and bad choices. But I did/do not adverstise and celebrate them.
Did not some of you bust out some shooters for shooting a doe that had fawns or early yearlings in tow because your belief was that the young would not survive?
As I have often said, there are the real bowhunters, and then there are the others. Nevertheless, it is a person's right to choose where they stand. I will stay with the real side.
Edited by - c903 on 11/10/2002 11:03:25
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This statement speaks loudly and requires no further comment. It is self-explanatory.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>This is what I say "if it's brown it's down".<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
In my time, I too have made mistakes and bad choices. But I did/do not adverstise and celebrate them.
Did not some of you bust out some shooters for shooting a doe that had fawns or early yearlings in tow because your belief was that the young would not survive?
As I have often said, there are the real bowhunters, and then there are the others. Nevertheless, it is a person's right to choose where they stand. I will stay with the real side.
Edited by - c903 on 11/10/2002 11:03:25
#23
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: emerald kansas USA
Posts: 51
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
So he shot button bucks ...big deal...alot of people have shot one by accident. Next time he'll have to look real close between their ears for the bumps before he shoots. There's plenty of bucks out there to seed the does for next year.
#24
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cave Spring Ga USA
Posts: 5
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
Ok, I have to admit this post really fires me up. I personally have over time become a trophy hunter, I also harvest numerous does a year. Regarding the taking of two button heads I say congratulations on a succesful hunt. The way I read this post was that a relatively inexperianced bowhunter filled his tag and was thankful. I have made mistakes before I can admit it. My first two deer were a button head and a little doe killed in the same morning by myself when I was 8, Does this make me a bad hunter, did it take away from my dads pride, was he humiliated that his son kill a "sacred" button buck no my picture was taken with my deer right beside the 8pt he killed the very same morning. Were these picture hidden or just kept to ourselves, no. I've matured alot as a hunter since then, as well I should it was almost 20 years ago. But just last year I mistook a button head for a doe on doe day during gun season here in Ga. Does this make me unresponsible???(sarcasim intended) I wished at the time that it wasn't a button head but I was proud of the shot and went about as if it was just another doe. Am I ethically wrong for this, no I am proud to be a hunter as we all should be and to be practicing my sport in a manner that I consider ethical. So lets lighten up be it a button head or a basket 6 a trophy is in the eyes of the hunter.
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Peterstown WV USA
Posts: 2,541
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
c903 Could you please explain to me what a real bowhunter is and please tell me how much experience you have How many years deer hunting and how many with a bow.
#26
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Palmyra PA USA
Posts: 292
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
Aaaahh, these guys are just jealous because they'll have to work a little harder to find a buck next year. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Congratulations to your father-in-law on two clean bowkills.
#27
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,862
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
royak
If I have to tell you what a "real" hunter is, bow or firearm, I believe I would just be spinning my wheels.
As for time in grade; long enough to know that the once common ethics of bowhunting has changed for the worse, and that bowhunting has been invaded by wrong types.
I have harvested my share of deer, but never any fawns or early yearlings. Could have, and still can, but I will never, intentionally.
Bowhunting is for those who want the challenge more than the kill. Killing very young deer is no challenge. Also, there is not much to eat once a 50-75 lb deer is completely butchered. Maybe a couple of venison burgers.
If I have to tell you what a "real" hunter is, bow or firearm, I believe I would just be spinning my wheels.
As for time in grade; long enough to know that the once common ethics of bowhunting has changed for the worse, and that bowhunting has been invaded by wrong types.
I have harvested my share of deer, but never any fawns or early yearlings. Could have, and still can, but I will never, intentionally.
Bowhunting is for those who want the challenge more than the kill. Killing very young deer is no challenge. Also, there is not much to eat once a 50-75 lb deer is completely butchered. Maybe a couple of venison burgers.
#28
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: WV USA
Posts: 89
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
I agree with C903. My only question is if one button buck was shot, which is understandable, was this deer recovered before the second one was shot? And if so, shouldn't more care be used to determine that the next one was not? Bowhunting is not that easy and it is very difficult to determine if a deer is down until you find them. I myself am not a trophy hunter, but I am not starving either, if I was hunting for survival I may be more likely to harvest a young deer, but I hope that it never comes to that. I can understand that some people NEED meat and with that I give some consideration. I have been bowhunting for 10 years, and only have two kills. I have passed on many many animals that others would not, it has nothing to do with a huge rack, I just enjoy watching animals in nature and I have never taken a less than perfect shot either. In fact, I have passed on many perfect shots because the thought comes in my head that his deer has probably not even gotten to live through a year, and I think every living creature deserves at least that.
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
#29
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Williamsport PA. USA
Posts: 91
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
Lady congrats to your father in law. Dont let some of the SO CALLED EXPERTS on here tick you off. He had every right to be excited any deer taken with a bow is someones trophy regardless of wether it is a buck,doe or in this case a button. I have taken a couple of buttons and to tell you the truth it didnt matter. The game commission expects a certain amount of buttons to be killed and to say that it hurts the resourse goes to show that some dont understand deer management.
#30
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,862
RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
Dale/PA
I have to totally disagree with you. Killing button bucks most definitely hurts a certain aspect of future resources. Apparently you know what that particular aspect is. To validate your knowldge of game management, would you mind enlightening the readers?
Additionally, he killing of button bucks can have a long-reaching, down the road, detrimental affect on the health of a deer population, does and bucks. Care to tell us what that affect can be?
I have to totally disagree with you. Killing button bucks most definitely hurts a certain aspect of future resources. Apparently you know what that particular aspect is. To validate your knowldge of game management, would you mind enlightening the readers?
Additionally, he killing of button bucks can have a long-reaching, down the road, detrimental affect on the health of a deer population, does and bucks. Care to tell us what that affect can be?