aim low hit high?
07-05-2006, 08:26 PM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: RI
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RE: aim low hit high?
Bend at the waist. I did the same thing last year, more times than I want to say. I know to bend at the waist, and practicing from an elevated stand I do, but in the heat of the moment I just put the pin where I wanted to hit and let it fly. When that deer just kept on feeding as if nothing happened, I knew 2 things. 1-my bow is quiet enough and 2-I need to remember to BEND AT THE WAIST!
07-05-2006, 10:26 PM
#22
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blossvale, New York
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RE: aim low hit high?
It depends on your form and stance. My advice, practice from that far up and see what happens. I aim where I want to hit. It's worked dozens of times. If the deer is super nervous or on edge I will aim low expecting a drop from the deer.
07-06-2006, 05:00 AM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Damascus MD
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RE: aim low hit high?
I have been useing pedulum sights for years because I mainly hunt out of tree stands. Which means I practice both on the ground and from elevated sights. There are lots of theories to proper form, bending at the waist, gravity, etc ... all of which Im sureadd to the overall factors in arrow flight, but, I have never missed an animal yet using a pendulum sight. Its made for shooting from elevatedheights and Ijust took that for what it was worth whenI bought my first pendulum sight, a Keller, worked great. Now I shoot a Trophy Ridge Mantis because it has a lock out for ground shooting as well.
07-06-2006, 07:28 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
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RE: aim low hit high?
ORIGINAL: Dr Andy
I use a tru-glo pendulum it also locks. The pendulum does compensate for shots from elevation.
I use a tru-glo pendulum it also locks. The pendulum does compensate for shots from elevation.
07-06-2006, 08:40 AM
#26
Nontypical Buck
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RE: aim low hit high?
Mosrly all good advice especially bending at the waist. If you shoot by just droping your bow arm you have just changed everything including draw length and anchering point. When you are ready to shoot draw your bow just like you are on level ground get to your ancher point then bend at the waist to get on target sound like a lot but it only takes less then a second and you poi will remain the same as at the range. There are a lot of folks who live in the city and can't get out to shoot out of a treestand and this works for them. But if you are where you can practice from an elevated position by all means do it. Mike
07-06-2006, 08:48 AM
#27
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Augusta KS USA
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RE: aim low hit high?
Gravity...............The aim low hit high from either a elevated or low position can be true. The gravity equation becomes more noticeable on longer bow shots or with rifle hunters particullary in mountain hunting.
when you are up in the stand 20+ feet and the animal by arrow flight is 30 yards it may only be from the base of your tree 20 yards. That 20 yards is your true distance according to gravity. If you use your 30 yard pin you will hit high.
This works the same way shooting uphill.
You are starting to see a lot of range finders anymore that will calculate your true ballistic distance based on grade. It does make a difference.
when you are up in the stand 20+ feet and the animal by arrow flight is 30 yards it may only be from the base of your tree 20 yards. That 20 yards is your true distance according to gravity. If you use your 30 yard pin you will hit high.
This works the same way shooting uphill.
You are starting to see a lot of range finders anymore that will calculate your true ballistic distance based on grade. It does make a difference.
07-06-2006, 10:39 AM
#30
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: North Lima Ohio & Clarion Pa
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RE: aim low hit high?
ORIGINAL: PA Bow/Flinter
That is the distance gravity is pulling on the arrow. Anyone remember Pythagorean's Theorem? A squared plus B squared equals C squared.
Say you are 15ft up a tree and the deer looks to be 20 yds away. Even though the deer looks to be 20 yds away, the distance that gravity has to pull on the arrow is ~13.22 yards. So if you use your 20 pin on a deer ~13.22 yds away...you are going to shoot high.
That is the distance gravity is pulling on the arrow. Anyone remember Pythagorean's Theorem? A squared plus B squared equals C squared.
Say you are 15ft up a tree and the deer looks to be 20 yds away. Even though the deer looks to be 20 yds away, the distance that gravity has to pull on the arrow is ~13.22 yards. So if you use your 20 pin on a deer ~13.22 yds away...you are going to shoot high.
True A^2 + B^2= C^2
But in this case A=5 yards (15 ft high in stand ..Remember we must have like units)
B= 20 yards the horizontal distance to the deer (if both on grouund)
C= the hypotenuse the distance your arrow travels from your elevated stand to the deer
so we see that A^2 =25 yards b^2=400 yards and c^2 then equals 425 yards.
The square root of 425 equals the arrow travel distance of about 20.62 yards.
While all this is fine and dandy the only real issue we need to know is the Horizontal distance. If you use a range finder you need to shoot yardages on the same plane that you are shooting from. In the case used as an example, the range finder would tell you to shoot 20.62 yards instead of 20 yards. Maybe with todays bows that 18 inches doesn't make a huge difference. But a good shot will definitely be high of your mark by some degree.
I'm not saying aim low or anything like that I'm just saying know what that yardage on the rangefinder really means.