Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
10-28-2002, 01:31 PM
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Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
I was hunting on Sunday morning on some land that a friend and I have exclusive Bowhunting Permission to be on (100 acres). The land owner is a recent friend of ours and we were told by him that if we saw anyone else on their land, that we should tell them to leave.
Anyway I was in my stand before first light, and I heard a door slam shut in a nearby field. I couldn't tell exactly where it came from but it was close. Then I heard some loud voices. I didn't think much of anything. Then at about 7:00 AM, I was hearing shooting from a small caliber riffle, about 20 shots in a row. So I thought maybe someone was practicing and would stop soon. But the shooting didn't stop. It continued for hours and they must have shot the gun in excess of 300 rounds. Now the shots were getting closer.
It's about 10:30 AM now and here comes a man and a kid walking right up my shooting lane. The man is holding two (what I call) banana clips, and the son is holding a 22.
I told the guy that he is on private land and that he needs leave per the landowners request to me. He told me repeatedly told me not to "Bust his Ba***. I told him that I wasn't and that I was speaking per the landowners request. He told me and this is in front of his son that "he doesn't care about hunting on posted land and that he would go over posted signs". He also told me the he had been turned in twice by the adjacent land over two times for trespessing, and even parks on the landovers land. Today, this guy actually took down the farmers chain, and drove up into the landowners field with his vehicle. Now this is where I started to get fired up. This guy has no respect. I'm still in my stand mind you. And his son is holding the gun. I didn't want to get too much into it with him at this point other than to make my point that he doesn't have to permission to be there and he needs to leave.
Now I get down out of my stand, because what is the point of hunting there the rest of the day after him and his son were supposively hunting squirrels and letting off 300 rounds. So I get to our truck (not in the field) and my buddy is already back. Apparently there were bullets flying over his head in his stand around 30-40 yards away and he is pissed. He said that when he went in, he was walking through the field, and this guy went flying by him in his truck. He also found a ladder stand about 50 yards from his stand which we believe is the same guys that I seen.
Can you believe this guy? Not to put anyone down, but he seems like a the yuppy type, he is from a upscale suburban area (50 miles away near Buffalo). I just can't believe what he is teaching his son. I have never met anyone in the woods like this before. He is the type that give hunters a bad name.
We will be contacting the landowner this week to tell him about our little adventure.
Edited by - BobCo19-65 on 10/28/2002 13:35:11
Anyway I was in my stand before first light, and I heard a door slam shut in a nearby field. I couldn't tell exactly where it came from but it was close. Then I heard some loud voices. I didn't think much of anything. Then at about 7:00 AM, I was hearing shooting from a small caliber riffle, about 20 shots in a row. So I thought maybe someone was practicing and would stop soon. But the shooting didn't stop. It continued for hours and they must have shot the gun in excess of 300 rounds. Now the shots were getting closer.
It's about 10:30 AM now and here comes a man and a kid walking right up my shooting lane. The man is holding two (what I call) banana clips, and the son is holding a 22.
I told the guy that he is on private land and that he needs leave per the landowners request to me. He told me repeatedly told me not to "Bust his Ba***. I told him that I wasn't and that I was speaking per the landowners request. He told me and this is in front of his son that "he doesn't care about hunting on posted land and that he would go over posted signs". He also told me the he had been turned in twice by the adjacent land over two times for trespessing, and even parks on the landovers land. Today, this guy actually took down the farmers chain, and drove up into the landowners field with his vehicle. Now this is where I started to get fired up. This guy has no respect. I'm still in my stand mind you. And his son is holding the gun. I didn't want to get too much into it with him at this point other than to make my point that he doesn't have to permission to be there and he needs to leave.
Now I get down out of my stand, because what is the point of hunting there the rest of the day after him and his son were supposively hunting squirrels and letting off 300 rounds. So I get to our truck (not in the field) and my buddy is already back. Apparently there were bullets flying over his head in his stand around 30-40 yards away and he is pissed. He said that when he went in, he was walking through the field, and this guy went flying by him in his truck. He also found a ladder stand about 50 yards from his stand which we believe is the same guys that I seen.
Can you believe this guy? Not to put anyone down, but he seems like a the yuppy type, he is from a upscale suburban area (50 miles away near Buffalo). I just can't believe what he is teaching his son. I have never met anyone in the woods like this before. He is the type that give hunters a bad name.
We will be contacting the landowner this week to tell him about our little adventure.
Edited by - BobCo19-65 on 10/28/2002 13:35:11
10-28-2002, 02:18 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
I don't know what to tell ya.Some people are complete idiots!!And they are the select few that give the rest a bad name.Local officials should be informed of this type of behavior--hell, maybe even social services!This guy is a real piece of work.
10-28-2002, 03:32 PM
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RE: Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
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10-28-2002, 03:49 PM
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RE: Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
My first call would have been the police,then the owner and would have blocked that guy in so he couldn't leave or I would have popped his tires,Your lucky you werent "accidentally" shot by the idiot.Its hard to do much when you're outgunned but if opportunity arose I would have snatched that gun away and wrapped it aroud a tree.Of course I'm a real hot-head when it comes to that kind of crap,I have had it happen to me on my own property, I got a nice 12 ga. out of it(in pieces when I was done)
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10-28-2002, 04:31 PM
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RE: Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
Popping the tires sounds a bit extreme. I would have just cut off the valve stems!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Seriously, that kind of behavior cannot be tolerated and he needs to be prosecuted to the furthest extent of the law. Have the landowner report the incident and if the guy shows up again call the law directly.
Seriously, that kind of behavior cannot be tolerated and he needs to be prosecuted to the furthest extent of the law. Have the landowner report the incident and if the guy shows up again call the law directly.
10-28-2002, 06:40 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
Sounds like the guy that stood next to a "No tresspassing" sign at my property line and used his son to fetch geese that he shot over my field. Call the game warden. It's even better if you have a cell phone and call when the guy is trespassing.
If you pull something like the tire valve trick I'd check every nail/screw etc. on my tree stand everytime I went out. This guy sounds like that's the way he would get even.
Dan O.
If you pull something like the tire valve trick I'd check every nail/screw etc. on my tree stand everytime I went out. This guy sounds like that's the way he would get even.
Dan O.
10-28-2002, 07:00 PM
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RE: Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
That's a REAL SHAME!! I agree the first call should be the police. Although I would be tempted for all that other stuff like tires and busting guns etc it usually just takes it another level lower.
Friend of mine claims he poured a bottle of the scent he uses on the beaver traps down the vent just in front of the windshield on an offender's pickup. That stuff is nasty. Supposedly you can't inhabit the vechicle afterwards. Its fun to fantasize about occasionally. Never done it though.
"Size isn't important, but it HELPS!!!"
Friend of mine claims he poured a bottle of the scent he uses on the beaver traps down the vent just in front of the windshield on an offender's pickup. That stuff is nasty. Supposedly you can't inhabit the vechicle afterwards. Its fun to fantasize about occasionally. Never done it though.
"Size isn't important, but it HELPS!!!"
10-28-2002, 08:16 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Interesting Story about Hunting Ethics
land owner hell, I'd go straight to fish and wildlife....something called hunter harresment laws!!! Hope ya got them...if ya dont, I'd try and lobby TO get them!!!