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Old 04-18-2006, 12:43 PM
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For smooth drawing look into an Oneida (you could even take a road-trip to the factory). They were a bit loud for my taste back in the mid 80's when I had one but there's nothing more smooth and 50# ought to do well for deer. I agree with the ground blind idea rather than the tree, if your terrain allows.
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:31 PM
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If he wantsCross bows are great, my Grmapa is in the same boat. I bought him Ten Point with Accu draw(crank pulls the bow back) it works great. I even got him an electric screwdriver to pull the bow back. Great thing about accu draw is you can let the cross bow down with firing it. Put a red dot on it and old gramps is deadly!
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:01 PM
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That's awesome that you get to hunt w/ your dad again. My dad is also my favorite partner as well and there was a 8 year time period where I was not able to hunt w/ him due to distance. Where in NY do you guys live?

If he has problems w/getting the bow back, and wants to learn more about alternative means and equipment specifically designed to help with these types of physical limitations, my main shooting partner is VERY involved w/ PCBA (physically challenged bowhunters of america) andhas a TON of experiencegetting guys setup w/ equipment that allows them to shoot with physical limitations. He is a one armed archer as well w/ 2x NETAA world titles under his belt, so he speaks from experience. I am sure he would help in any way if you guys need it, his screen name is Jaws on here, but he doesn't visit often.
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:35 PM
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No great ideas on equipment but I wanted to congratulate you on that wonderful news and the fact that your dad is your best friend. My dad was always my closest friend and confidante. He won't be coming home but someday I will and I know he'll be waiting. Enjoy every second you get to spend with him.
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Old 04-18-2006, 06:34 PM
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I havn't read all the posts so I don't know if these things havebeen covered.As far as smooth drawing bows are concerned I have heard a number of people comment about one of the bowtechs and one of the matthews feeling like it draws ten pounds lighter than it actually is,a bow with larger round wheels will draw much more smoothly and there should be no reason that a 40 to 45 pound draw weight shouldn't be sufficient.The use of a heavier arrow will pump up the kinetic energy.
A possible solution to your dad lugging a climber is strap on tree steps and a light fixed position stand with a large platform,I would suggest that he belts himself all the way up and down never not being connected.
I think that it is great that your folks will be around and you will have the opportunity to hunt with your dad again! That is what it is all about!
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Old 04-18-2006, 06:53 PM
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Sorry I can't comment on equipment but I just wanted to say how nice it must be to have your Dad around to hunt with again. My dad is about the sameage and just about completely lost all desire to hunt. He was going to go fishing more....that's cool. Still at least had my fishing partner. Now heading into this summer he's seemed to have lost that drive too. So congrats again on being reunited with your dad/hunting partner/friend, enjoy your time afield with him.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:08 PM
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Alt I think you should take him to a Pro shop and let them guys work with him as far as a bow goes if he is having trouble with somthing they are the ones that can make adjustments and get him going on the straight and narrow.
He will be going to the proshop for sure........I just never really thought about getting him setup with a bow so easy draws were of no concern to me........now all the sudden he springs this on us and my head is spinning with possibilities for him. First thing is first........I need to find out how much weight he can pull without hurting himself. I wish he was right handed........I would just give him my Patriot if he could pull it back.

As far as a stand goes I would definetly suggest a fixed position stand and a good ladder it is a lot less work to climb in and out of and you can help him put it up before the hunt it only takes a few min. to put up and there the most stable.
Good luck I hope everything works out.
He will be in his share of solid stands.........but we have been hunting the same piece of state land for decades and I know he will want to go there often.........and we all do too......it's like our second home come fall. State land is no permanent stands so it's ground blind or climber. I don't like the idea of him going up sticks and standing on a small hang on.........I would be so nervous all day in my stand I wouldn't enjoy myself.


I think you are a very good son for trying to take care of your dad like you are. I'm 52 right now and god forbid my health goes soulth I hope my boys treat me as well. Mike
My dad always laughed and said I would be "one and done"......because of my intense love of animals. He thought pulling the trigger myself would be too much too handle for me. He laughs even harder today when he thinks back on that and says "I couldn't have been any more wrong on that one"............we have spent time together in the woods every year for more then half my life and those memories are some of the best I have in my life. I can tell you EVERY story my dad has about deer hunting......in fact I can recite them word for word........yet every year I look forward to hearing them told to me again as if I have never heard them. A few years ago my dad was gone back to Florida already and I was having an absolutely miserable year.......I couldn't even see a deer if my life depended on it. On Thanksgiving morning I was headed out the door and I looked down and saw my dad's gun next to mine and decided to take the old wingmaster out in hopes it would change my luck...........as I strolled through a ragweed field I looked up and the biggest deer I have ever seen was trotting my way....I raised the gun and I swear to God it seemed like slow motion and no matter how hard my heart beat and my nerves tightened I felt calm as I remembered the words my dad engraved in my head a million times to avoid buck fever.......I could hear his voice say "Aim the gun kiddo"........no one will ever know but me how that experience unfolded on that day and all I can say is there is no way that chain of events was one big coincidence. My dad was with me that day........guiding my hand as he has done so many times before.......both in the woods and out. The biggest deer of my life, a perfect shot, and the emotional connection of that experience are all things I will treasure for many many years to come. Just writing this makes me realize how much I can't wait for them to come home.

I'm sure your boys will take good care of you...........I pray you never need the help. I know my dad gets discouraged when he tries to do something and can't..........it breaks my heart to see him struggle sometimes if we have a long walk uphill or something. He tried to drag his own deer last year out of stubborness and his neck was killing him for weeks. He still thinks he is 28.........not 58.


Thanks for the help.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:09 PM
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For smooth drawing look into an Oneida (you could even take a road-trip to the factory). They were a bit loud for my taste back in the mid 80's when I had one but there's nothing more smooth and 50# ought to do well for deer. I agree with the ground blind idea rather than the tree, if your terrain allows.
I have never shot one or even seen one............I will keep that in mind. Thanks.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:09 PM
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Bow ,Diamond justice with smooth pulling freedom cam.
Treestand, lone wolf sit and climb.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:15 PM
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If he wantsCross bows are great, my Grmapa is in the same boat. I bought him Ten Point with Accu draw(crank pulls the bow back) it works great. I even got him an electric screwdriver to pull the bow back. Great thing about accu draw is you can let the cross bow down with firing it. Put a red dot on it and old gramps is deadly!
He didn't sound too thrilled when I mentioned them on the phone......if they are his only choice he will be OK with it. If he can avoid one if possible he will. My dad overestimates their range I'm sure because he made a rifle analogy when we talked...........we will see. He will have no choice if he can't pull a bow.

Ten point.......is that the brand?
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