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Mechanical OR Fixed blade
01-23-2006, 08:43 PM
#22
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: Mechanical OR Fixed blade
Why do words always get twisted?
This is a place where recurves and bows without 3rd axis adjustment don't belong.
Plain English, there. No twisting required. Maybe you didn't intend to come off like an equipment snob and put forth the idea that ONLY guys shooting what YOU like should hunt the high mountains, but that's exactly what you said. Come on down and visit. I'll teach you how to stalk close to your prey so you don't have to have such complicated and expensive gear.
. I don't respect those that choose to avoid technology and learn by trial and error and wounding animals.we are allowed to give opinions, so here is another. Don't be looking at all those pictures of hunters holding their recurve bow in hand smiling with dead deer at his side.
Thosepictures came at a price and a price that only the wounded animals can talk about.They may have something to show in the picture you see, but those hunters will never talk about all the hard lessons they learned to get there.
Thosepictures came at a price and a price that only the wounded animals can talk about.They may have something to show in the picture you see, but those hunters will never talk about all the hard lessons they learned to get there.
If you're really interested, there are some very instructive wound/loss statistics broken down between traditional and compound available from the McAllister Army Ammunition Depot in Oklahoma. Data does not back up your claims about wounded animals. In fact, the inverse is true.
01-23-2006, 09:02 PM
#23
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
Posts: 18,322
RE: Mechanical OR Fixed blade
ORIGINAL: MilDotMaster
Out west while hunting at 7500 feet elevation in open granite peak country, it is not very common to get a shot off at 20 yards. This is a place where recurves and bows without 3rd axis adjustment don't belong. It is a challenge in itself to get within 40 yardswhile hunting these wild deer that are not baited or even in the rut. Especially with the ever changing wind currents. After hiking in 8-12 miles each direction for a weekend hunt,you have too much to lose to give away accuracyby usinga fixed blade broadhead. Accuracy is the most important factor to consider, so I use the original 100 grainNAP Spitfires with a precisely tuned bow to make the most of my hunting environment. If you haveenough KE to deliver them, no reason not to use them. Do your fixed blade broadheads shoot 5 shot3 inch groups at 60 yards with 5 mph quartering or crosswinds?
Out west while hunting at 7500 feet elevation in open granite peak country, it is not very common to get a shot off at 20 yards. This is a place where recurves and bows without 3rd axis adjustment don't belong. It is a challenge in itself to get within 40 yardswhile hunting these wild deer that are not baited or even in the rut. Especially with the ever changing wind currents. After hiking in 8-12 miles each direction for a weekend hunt,you have too much to lose to give away accuracyby usinga fixed blade broadhead. Accuracy is the most important factor to consider, so I use the original 100 grainNAP Spitfires with a precisely tuned bow to make the most of my hunting environment. If you haveenough KE to deliver them, no reason not to use them. Do your fixed blade broadheads shoot 5 shot3 inch groups at 60 yards with 5 mph quartering or crosswinds?
01-23-2006, 09:38 PM
#24
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location:
Posts: 519
RE: Mechanical OR Fixed blade
Data is as good as the people entering it. Giveanyone 100 pieces of data and they will find a way to skew the results to their liking. Check with any business accounting department, they will tell you anything you want to hear as a share holder.
I can have every moderator in the house telling me their glory stories about hunting with recurves and nothing, I repeat nothing will change my mind in how I feel about their usage for hunting. Sorry that what I say doesn't make you feel warm and fuzzy, but that is my opinion just as you have an opinion on the gear I use.
Arthur as far as your talk about teaching me how to hunt...give me a break and did you even have to go there...this discussion is getting worse by the minute and your going to make it all sound like kindergarten playground...I can garantee you couldn't make it into and back out of the country we hunt onfor aweekend trip. How are you going to teach me how to stalk when your breathing so heavy the deer can hear you 200 yards away. Even if you had 3 days to get in and up to the peaksyou wouldn't have the energy to be crawling around chasing offall the deer. Think you're getting your flat land and grain feed deer mixed up with the real thing.
I can have every moderator in the house telling me their glory stories about hunting with recurves and nothing, I repeat nothing will change my mind in how I feel about their usage for hunting. Sorry that what I say doesn't make you feel warm and fuzzy, but that is my opinion just as you have an opinion on the gear I use.
Arthur as far as your talk about teaching me how to hunt...give me a break and did you even have to go there...this discussion is getting worse by the minute and your going to make it all sound like kindergarten playground...I can garantee you couldn't make it into and back out of the country we hunt onfor aweekend trip. How are you going to teach me how to stalk when your breathing so heavy the deer can hear you 200 yards away. Even if you had 3 days to get in and up to the peaksyou wouldn't have the energy to be crawling around chasing offall the deer. Think you're getting your flat land and grain feed deer mixed up with the real thing.
01-23-2006, 10:43 PM
#25
Typical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Posts: 957
RE: Mechanical OR Fixed blade
I wonder what Paul Shafer used? Mech or fixed? How about Ben Pearson? Or Howard Hill? Of course, I suppose they didn't really hunt in any tough areas. Probably wounded more than they took. Didn't Paul Shafer have to shoot that lion 2 or 3 times before it got off his hunting partner? He shoulda been using a mech.[8D]
01-24-2006, 04:15 AM
#26
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: Mechanical OR Fixed blade
No doubt I couldn't do worth a flip in the high country. I'm so crippled up, I have a hard time in the flatlands. But even as screwed up as I am,I can still stalk within 15 yards of a particular buck in a group of 8 deer and not get busted. Non-grain fed deer, by the way.
I'm sorry you've got such a narrow opinion of traditional equipment, especially since that opinion is based on a completely false premise. That's why I challenged you on it. At least I can come away from this little spat knowing that I am not the one who is trying to say another legal form of hunting equipment shouldn't be allowed.
By the way, you asked about spears... Yeah, I think if they're legal, then they should be used. By folks who aren't afraid of taking the challenge. Who aren't afraid of learning those hard lessons. Who aren't afraid to go home empty handed at the end of the day because the animal won the game that day.
I guess it'd be kinda hard to mount a 3rd axis sight on a spear though, wouldn't it. [8D]
Cold Steel makes a few very nice spears suitable for hunting. For stickin' them up close and personal, or for throwing. I've got a hankering to buy the Boar Spear. www.coldsteel.com
I'm sorry you've got such a narrow opinion of traditional equipment, especially since that opinion is based on a completely false premise. That's why I challenged you on it. At least I can come away from this little spat knowing that I am not the one who is trying to say another legal form of hunting equipment shouldn't be allowed.
By the way, you asked about spears... Yeah, I think if they're legal, then they should be used. By folks who aren't afraid of taking the challenge. Who aren't afraid of learning those hard lessons. Who aren't afraid to go home empty handed at the end of the day because the animal won the game that day.
I guess it'd be kinda hard to mount a 3rd axis sight on a spear though, wouldn't it. [8D]
Cold Steel makes a few very nice spears suitable for hunting. For stickin' them up close and personal, or for throwing. I've got a hankering to buy the Boar Spear. www.coldsteel.com
01-24-2006, 10:12 AM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Louisiana
Posts: 3,050
RE: Mechanical OR Fixed blade
I use NAP 100 grain spitfires and do very well with them. I have used Muzzy 100's also. Either will work. It doesn't matter what you use as long as you hit the deer in the vitals. A mechanical or fixed shot in the wrongspot will not do the job. A broadhead is only as good as the person shooting it.
01-24-2006, 11:18 AM
#29
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Southren MI
Posts: 312
RE: Mechanical OR Fixed blade
I voted Mechanical. I shoot the AfterShock HyperShock 100's with the 2"in cutting you can not go wrong. I have shoot 4 animals this year in '05 and all them added up did not make it 100 yards I have never had a ANY boardhead do that kind of damage. Quick cleand and down!
