Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
10-31-2005, 11:47 AM
#11
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Texas
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
Go to where you lost sign and start making small circles and increase the circles kind of like a target. This has worked for me in the past. Go very slow and watch for signs of blood on the folaige neck high on the deer. He may not be dripping blood but it will rub off as his neck touches things he walks by.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
10-31-2005, 12:05 PM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Kentucky
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
atlasman...not everyone was born an expert. You will find that just about everyone has made dumb mistakes in their hunting life time. I know I have. The first doe I ever shot with a bow was twenty five years ago and I took a straight on shot into the base of the neck. Yes it was a bad shot but I didn't have the knowledge and experience I do now. I see all the "I lost my deer" threads also but see no reason to jump their case. Maybe they just want to get it off their chest and maybe get a few pointers. At least in the world of the internet young hunters can get a lot of information that can accelerate the learning curve but it will still take real world experience to make them good hunters.
10-31-2005, 12:15 PM
#13
Fork Horn
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: west central WI
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
Not trying to say I'm an expert. I bowhunt probably 30 days each fall....beenbowhunting for 5 years. I have plenty of experience in the tree....and know what I'm SUPPOSED to do....but have no experience once it is actually happening in the heat of the moment. Not looking to give my sob story. I'm looking for any advise I can get before I get back out there.
I'm trying to learn by experience...not by reading internet boards. Alasman, why don't you just copy / paste your post so next time someone does somthing like this you don't have to waste time typing to respond to inferiors like myself. Thanks alot.
I'm trying to learn by experience...not by reading internet boards. Alasman, why don't you just copy / paste your post so next time someone does somthing like this you don't have to waste time typing to respond to inferiors like myself. Thanks alot.
10-31-2005, 12:38 PM
#14
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
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atlasman...not everyone was born an expert. You will find that just about everyone has made dumb mistakes in their hunting life time. I know I have. The first doe I ever shot with a bow was twenty five years ago and I took a straight on shot into the base of the neck. Yes it was a bad shot but I didn't have the knowledge and experience I do now. I see all the "I lost my deer" threads also but see no reason to jump their case. Maybe they just want to get it off their chest and maybe get a few pointers. At least in the world of the internet young hunters can get a lot of information that can accelerate the learning curve but it will still take real world experience to make them good hunters.
atlasman...not everyone was born an expert. You will find that just about everyone has made dumb mistakes in their hunting life time. I know I have. The first doe I ever shot with a bow was twenty five years ago and I took a straight on shot into the base of the neck. Yes it was a bad shot but I didn't have the knowledge and experience I do now. I see all the "I lost my deer" threads also but see no reason to jump their case. Maybe they just want to get it off their chest and maybe get a few pointers. At least in the world of the internet young hunters can get a lot of information that can accelerate the learning curve but it will still take real world experience to make them good hunters.
10-31-2005, 12:40 PM
#15
Join Date: Sep 2005
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
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Not trying to say I'm an expert. I bowhunt probably 30 days each fall....been bowhunting for 5 years. I have plenty of experience in the tree....and know what I'm SUPPOSED to do....but have no experience once it is actually happening in the heat of the moment. Not looking to give my sob story. I'm looking for any advise I can get before I get back out there.
I'm trying to learn by experience...not by reading internet boards. Alasman, why don't you just copy / paste your post so next time someone does somthing like this you don't have to waste time typing to respond to inferiors like myself. Thanks alot.
Not trying to say I'm an expert. I bowhunt probably 30 days each fall....been bowhunting for 5 years. I have plenty of experience in the tree....and know what I'm SUPPOSED to do....but have no experience once it is actually happening in the heat of the moment. Not looking to give my sob story. I'm looking for any advise I can get before I get back out there.
I'm trying to learn by experience...not by reading internet boards. Alasman, why don't you just copy / paste your post so next time someone does somthing like this you don't have to waste time typing to respond to inferiors like myself. Thanks alot.
Never take a shot unless you are 100% confident you can make that shot.
Stop looking at the antlers once you have decided he is a shooter.
If you are not 100% sure you hit your target area (double lung) wait 1 hour before you climb down to check your arrow. (only)
You can't wait too long before you start tracking, but you can start too early.
We owe it to these animals we hunt to place an accurate shot which will cause the least amount of suffering.
10-31-2005, 12:42 PM
#16
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
Atlas, you need to back off and give the guy a break. He realizes he did the wrong thing. That is one thing I hate about these sites there is always some jerk who thinks he is perfect and goes off on people. I am sure you have made mistakes as well. Ease up he was asking for help.
10-31-2005, 12:50 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
Any chance you have someone in your area with a trained deer-recovery dog? That is your best chance.
2nd, keep looking, a hit like that will force a mature buck to try to get back to his safe area, his bedding thicket. I know I hit a mature buck high in the shoulder and I found him in his bedding area 250 yards away with no blood trail. He will probably crawl up in his safest place, hes been around long enough to have these places established...if he lived long enough to make it there thats where he is headed imo. Do you know where he bedded. You said you have trail cams of him? You should know some of his patterns right?
You did make a mistake, you admitted it and now its time to move on, learn a very important lesson, decide what its gonna take to not make the same mistake again, I know I did......and last... Many of us have been right where you are... at one point or time. Anyone that says they haven't hasn't hunted much or they are just flat out very fortunate to have everything always go right.... It's like the guy who says he's never been whipped. Truth is... most of the time...he hasn't been in many fights.
Good luck, keep your head up and learn from this....Find that deer. use the birds, yotes whatever...but as of today, you know the direction he was heading..look for him to go back to his security area, his bedding area. If you know where he liked to bed...get a couple buddies and search that area on your handsand knees if you have too...Good luck. 150 class or 50 class...it doesn't matter, I hope you find him.
Troy
2nd, keep looking, a hit like that will force a mature buck to try to get back to his safe area, his bedding thicket. I know I hit a mature buck high in the shoulder and I found him in his bedding area 250 yards away with no blood trail. He will probably crawl up in his safest place, hes been around long enough to have these places established...if he lived long enough to make it there thats where he is headed imo. Do you know where he bedded. You said you have trail cams of him? You should know some of his patterns right?
You did make a mistake, you admitted it and now its time to move on, learn a very important lesson, decide what its gonna take to not make the same mistake again, I know I did......and last... Many of us have been right where you are... at one point or time. Anyone that says they haven't hasn't hunted much or they are just flat out very fortunate to have everything always go right.... It's like the guy who says he's never been whipped. Truth is... most of the time...he hasn't been in many fights.
Good luck, keep your head up and learn from this....Find that deer. use the birds, yotes whatever...but as of today, you know the direction he was heading..look for him to go back to his security area, his bedding area. If you know where he liked to bed...get a couple buddies and search that area on your handsand knees if you have too...Good luck. 150 class or 50 class...it doesn't matter, I hope you find him.
Troy
10-31-2005, 12:54 PM
#18
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
I have to side with Atlas here.
Ok bad shots happen in the "heat of the moment" but after the shot there is no "heat of the moment" and you have all of the time in the world to think about your plan of action as to how and WHEN to track your wounded deer.
That's not bowhunting, but hunting 101. So what do you want from us??? You want us to tell you he's fine and probably survived the shot? Odds are he didn't and is about 5 counties away deadbecause you DECIDED to go running after him right away knowing it was a bad shot.
If you have been hunting as long as you say you have, and really wanted some help, you should have posted this last night with something to the effect of: "I made a bad shot ona 150 class buck, hit him in the neck, saw lots of blood then backed out of the woods. What is my best plan of attack to find him? Should I wait till morning or search later tonight?"
Not much you can do now but go to your last blood spot and start a circle search. I know if I shot a 150 class buck or ANY other deer for that matter. The LAST place I would be the day after is here crying about it.
Like you don't know what to do????? Go LOOK for it!
I not trying to be too mean here but I think comming here asking what to do after a deer has been hit by a bad shot should have beed done BEFORE you shot him eh??
Edit: Before anyone chimes, this guy is not a newbie, he said "I bowhunt probably 30 days each fall....beenbowhunting for 5 years. I have plenty of experience in the tree....and know what I'm SUPPOSED to do" I'm all for helping new hunters but come on here....5 years! If in five years he can't take the time to learn what to to do after a bad shot, then how much respect does he give this sport or the quary he chases?
Ok bad shots happen in the "heat of the moment" but after the shot there is no "heat of the moment" and you have all of the time in the world to think about your plan of action as to how and WHEN to track your wounded deer.
That's not bowhunting, but hunting 101. So what do you want from us??? You want us to tell you he's fine and probably survived the shot? Odds are he didn't and is about 5 counties away deadbecause you DECIDED to go running after him right away knowing it was a bad shot.
If you have been hunting as long as you say you have, and really wanted some help, you should have posted this last night with something to the effect of: "I made a bad shot ona 150 class buck, hit him in the neck, saw lots of blood then backed out of the woods. What is my best plan of attack to find him? Should I wait till morning or search later tonight?"
Not much you can do now but go to your last blood spot and start a circle search. I know if I shot a 150 class buck or ANY other deer for that matter. The LAST place I would be the day after is here crying about it.
Like you don't know what to do????? Go LOOK for it!
I not trying to be too mean here but I think comming here asking what to do after a deer has been hit by a bad shot should have beed done BEFORE you shot him eh??
Edit: Before anyone chimes, this guy is not a newbie, he said "I bowhunt probably 30 days each fall....beenbowhunting for 5 years. I have plenty of experience in the tree....and know what I'm SUPPOSED to do" I'm all for helping new hunters but come on here....5 years! If in five years he can't take the time to learn what to to do after a bad shot, then how much respect does he give this sport or the quary he chases?
10-31-2005, 12:59 PM
#19
Fork Horn
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
ORIGINAL: shed33
Any chance you have someone in your area with a trained deer-recovery dog? That is your best chance.
2nd, keep looking, a hit like that will force a mature buck to try to get back to his safe area, his bedding thicket. I know I hit a mature buck high in the shoulder and I found him in his bedding area 250 yards away with no blood trail. He will probably crawl up in his safest place, hes been around long enough to have these places established...if he lived long enough to make it there thats where he is headed imo. Do you know where he bedded. You said you have trail cams of him? You should know some of his patterns right?
You did make a mistake, you admitted it and now its time to move on, learn a very important lesson, decide what its gonna take to not make the same mistake again, I know I did......and last... Many of us have been right where you are... at one point or time. Anyone that says they haven't hasn't hunted much or they are just flat out very fortunate to have everything always go right.... It's like the guy who says he's never been whipped. Truth is... most of the time...he hasn't been in many fights.
Good luck, keep your head up and learn from this....Find that deer. use the birds, yotes whatever...but as of today, you know the direction he was heading..look for him to go back to his security area, his bedding area. If you know where he liked to bed...get a couple buddies and search that area on your handsand knees if you have too...Good luck. 150 class or 50 class...it doesn't matter, I hope you find him.
Troy
Any chance you have someone in your area with a trained deer-recovery dog? That is your best chance.
2nd, keep looking, a hit like that will force a mature buck to try to get back to his safe area, his bedding thicket. I know I hit a mature buck high in the shoulder and I found him in his bedding area 250 yards away with no blood trail. He will probably crawl up in his safest place, hes been around long enough to have these places established...if he lived long enough to make it there thats where he is headed imo. Do you know where he bedded. You said you have trail cams of him? You should know some of his patterns right?
You did make a mistake, you admitted it and now its time to move on, learn a very important lesson, decide what its gonna take to not make the same mistake again, I know I did......and last... Many of us have been right where you are... at one point or time. Anyone that says they haven't hasn't hunted much or they are just flat out very fortunate to have everything always go right.... It's like the guy who says he's never been whipped. Truth is... most of the time...he hasn't been in many fights.
Good luck, keep your head up and learn from this....Find that deer. use the birds, yotes whatever...but as of today, you know the direction he was heading..look for him to go back to his security area, his bedding area. If you know where he liked to bed...get a couple buddies and search that area on your handsand knees if you have too...Good luck. 150 class or 50 class...it doesn't matter, I hope you find him.
Troy
10-31-2005, 12:59 PM
#20
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Shot a big one need advise (150 class)
Also get some "flagging" and tag all signs you find. Gives you a good idea of direction of flight. Anyone ever shoot another arrow into the ground to mark where they shot the deer before they get down? I haven't, but thought it might be a good suggestion.
As far as tracking dog, if you're really desperate and your law allows, and there's no trained dog available, you can try this: If you have a dog of any sort of hunting lineage (beagle, foxhound, lab, retriever, terrier, dachsund, etc) put them on a leash and take them to the site. Take them to the spot where you shot the deer and put their nose down on the spot and then lead them to the first spot of blood and then the second. If you're lucky their genes may kick in and they may get the idea. I've seen it done with an untrained black lab and I've read of some non-hunting variaties of dogs having been trained for tracking. Even lousy sniffing dogs are better than any human.
As far as tracking dog, if you're really desperate and your law allows, and there's no trained dog available, you can try this: If you have a dog of any sort of hunting lineage (beagle, foxhound, lab, retriever, terrier, dachsund, etc) put them on a leash and take them to the site. Take them to the spot where you shot the deer and put their nose down on the spot and then lead them to the first spot of blood and then the second. If you're lucky their genes may kick in and they may get the idea. I've seen it done with an untrained black lab and I've read of some non-hunting variaties of dogs having been trained for tracking. Even lousy sniffing dogs are better than any human.