Kill this spike or not?
09-30-2005, 07:56 AM
#22
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Jackson, Missouri
Posts: 7,051
RE: Kill this spike or not?
You don't have to wonder anymore if a spike always remains a spike, i.e., "once a spike, always a spike." Study after study has proven this to be simply not true.
I wish I could recall which bowhunting mag it was in a couple years ago where they chronicled a deer's antler's on a farm which started out as a spike. It ended up being somewhere around a 150" deer within four years.
I wish I could recall which bowhunting mag it was in a couple years ago where they chronicled a deer's antler's on a farm which started out as a spike. It ended up being somewhere around a 150" deer within four years.
09-30-2005, 09:37 AM
#23
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TX Panhandle
Posts: 620
RE: Kill this spike or not?
Okay, once a spike, always a spike is an old wives tale. However, I would cull this deer. Big body, but undernourished (see the ribs folks). He's been around long enough to get a big body with less than optimum nutrition. Undoubtably this has affected his antler growth also, proper nutrition might turn him around. I don't know about your area in particular, IN MY AREA for a deer with a body like that he should have 6 to 10 points. He may not always be a spike, but he will always be inferior to his buddies IN MY AREA. We have good nutrition, moderate population densities and good genetics. In your area he might should get a delayed sentence for a year, but I can't make a management decision without the rest of the management data.
09-30-2005, 09:43 AM
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Lancaster pa
Posts: 3,015
RE: Kill this spike or not?
ORIGINAL: Diesel77
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1. Spikes are NOT always spikes, countless studies have disproven it.
2. Body size is one of the worse indicators of age
3. A mature deer's neck line will run straight into the brisket unlike the one originally posted.
result= young buck that will have a bigger rack if left to grow IMHO
09-30-2005, 10:13 AM
#26
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: North Lima Ohio & Clarion Pa
Posts: 6,453
RE: Kill this spike or not?
This is silly, Obviously you want justification to shoot him, If it's legal in your area and you want to take him, then take him. Don't look for reasons on this board, look for them in yourself.
sorry if I offend but thats my take on this post.
sorry if I offend but thats my take on this post.
09-30-2005, 11:00 AM
#30
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2004
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RE: Kill this spike or not?
FOR ME, I've had enough chances of shooting little guys like that so that I don't get a thrill out of it anymore. In fact I usually feel a little regret. So I'd pass. This is not because I'm such a great hunter but the area I hunt presents lots of opportunities to kill deer and I can kill two a day in the east half of the state. I know it's different in some other areas of the country where there are more hunters than deer and you'd have to moderate your opinion based on that. Spike myth is bunk. Besides, as others have said, he may make an interesting non-typical. Not every rack needs to be perfect symmetry.