Confused
08-30-2005, 09:27 PM
#22
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: creemore Ontario Canada
Posts: 5,525
RE: Confused
I'm posting some pic's of my form as well ,I'm sure i mightcome undersome critisism as well ,but I'm a big boy and can take it .But I'm posting a pic of my grip and bowarm just to show you what we mean by GRIP. Sorry but the second pic has a bit of canting to the left ,but I'm just trying to give you an idea what my grip look's like .
nubo
nubo
08-30-2005, 09:41 PM
#24
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: creemore Ontario Canada
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RE: Confused
Well give me some critisism ,I'm sure I have a flaw or 2 .
Thank's Bowhuntingfool ,I love this bow it's an awsome shooter ,considering it's a dually.
I noticed my bow arm is a little low in the first pic and I'm canting in the second pic .Oh well .
nubo
nubo
Thank's Bowhuntingfool ,I love this bow it's an awsome shooter ,considering it's a dually.
I noticed my bow arm is a little low in the first pic and I'm canting in the second pic .Oh well .
nubo
nubo
08-30-2005, 10:12 PM
#25
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: Confused
Nubo, in the pic where you're aiming at the camera.... Glad you said you're canting. I was thinking either you're canting the bow to the left or that door trim is WAY outta plumb.[8D] Not to mention your string side elbow is higher than it should be. The bow's draw length looks to be at least an inch too long. Not to mention those checkered pants.[:-]
Zak's right, I don't use a release. Learned to shoot with my fingers 50 years ago and, even though I have shot with a release quit a bit, I'm still more accurate with my fingers. However, when I shoot a compound it's a long axle to axle bow and 65% letoff, with a rest that's designed to be shot with fingers mounted on it. My favorite is a flipper, followed by the old springie rest.
Short, high letoff (over 65% actual) bows are very difficult to shoot with a fingers release. But it can be done with a change in technique. Drop a finger off and use a 2-finger release. Draw with a deep hook, then drop off a finger (either the top or bottom finger), let the string roll onto the fingertips before releasing. The main thing to remember about a fingers release is you do NOT release. You do nothing at all. You are already doing something - holding the string back under back tension. To release, you simply quit holding the string and allow it to escape.
Zak's right, I don't use a release. Learned to shoot with my fingers 50 years ago and, even though I have shot with a release quit a bit, I'm still more accurate with my fingers. However, when I shoot a compound it's a long axle to axle bow and 65% letoff, with a rest that's designed to be shot with fingers mounted on it. My favorite is a flipper, followed by the old springie rest.
Short, high letoff (over 65% actual) bows are very difficult to shoot with a fingers release. But it can be done with a change in technique. Drop a finger off and use a 2-finger release. Draw with a deep hook, then drop off a finger (either the top or bottom finger), let the string roll onto the fingertips before releasing. The main thing to remember about a fingers release is you do NOT release. You do nothing at all. You are already doing something - holding the string back under back tension. To release, you simply quit holding the string and allow it to escape.
08-30-2005, 10:13 PM
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Bradford, Ontario
Posts: 2,205
RE: Confused
Icedragon,
Looking at that picture I feel your biggest issue is that you are shooting with fingers. When you switch to a release you will be able to draw much more easily and it will allow you to grip the bow properly at that point. I would stop driving myself crazy and getting discouraged about my shooting until you get to try a release. You will also find the arrow does not try and move around your release but just sits there like its supposed to. I had the same setup as you and tried to shoot without a release and gave that up immediately. Don't despair.
Looking at that picture I feel your biggest issue is that you are shooting with fingers. When you switch to a release you will be able to draw much more easily and it will allow you to grip the bow properly at that point. I would stop driving myself crazy and getting discouraged about my shooting until you get to try a release. You will also find the arrow does not try and move around your release but just sits there like its supposed to. I had the same setup as you and tried to shoot without a release and gave that up immediately. Don't despair.
08-30-2005, 10:19 PM
#27
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 842
RE: Confused
Hey Icedragon who set that bow up for you?
THat peep sight looks WAY too low! When you draw, your string should be touching the side of your nose and the peep should be right there at your eye!
I would argue that the draw length is indeed set too short for you.... while actually I would argue that NUBO's is too long! But then again Nubo isn't complaining of any accuracy problems.
Get yourself to a shop and have them check your drawlength, have the bow adjusted to that length, have the peep set so you can look through it without bending your neck, get yourself a Scott Lil-goose release and THEN worry about your form. You can't have good form if the bow doesn't fit you.
THat peep sight looks WAY too low! When you draw, your string should be touching the side of your nose and the peep should be right there at your eye!
I would argue that the draw length is indeed set too short for you.... while actually I would argue that NUBO's is too long! But then again Nubo isn't complaining of any accuracy problems.
Get yourself to a shop and have them check your drawlength, have the bow adjusted to that length, have the peep set so you can look through it without bending your neck, get yourself a Scott Lil-goose release and THEN worry about your form. You can't have good form if the bow doesn't fit you.
08-30-2005, 10:37 PM
#28
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: creemore Ontario Canada
Posts: 5,525
RE: Confused
Aurthur!
I anchor at the back of my jaw ,that's why my draw length is a bit long ,I feel comfortable this way ,I haven't had any consistancy problem's to mention .I noticed the length look's a little long, but I've also been experimenting with new string's as well.I haven't had any problem's with string contact either . So much for the checkered pant's ,that was meant to throw you off a little and you weren't supposed to notice the canting . I also after seeing the pic's noticed that the elbow was high ,I thinkI might have to work on that ,becauseI never noticed I was doing that untilI seen the pic.
nubo
I anchor at the back of my jaw ,that's why my draw length is a bit long ,I feel comfortable this way ,I haven't had any consistancy problem's to mention .I noticed the length look's a little long, but I've also been experimenting with new string's as well.I haven't had any problem's with string contact either . So much for the checkered pant's ,that was meant to throw you off a little and you weren't supposed to notice the canting . I also after seeing the pic's noticed that the elbow was high ,I thinkI might have to work on that ,becauseI never noticed I was doing that untilI seen the pic.
nubo
08-31-2005, 06:33 AM
#30
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 735
RE: Confused
ORIGINAL: Trembow
Hey Icedragon who set that bow up for you?
THat peep sight looks WAY too low! When you draw, your string should be touching the side of your nose and the peep should be right there at your eye!
I would argue that the draw length is indeed set too short for you.... while actually I would argue that NUBO's is too long! But then again Nubo isn't complaining of any accuracy problems.
Get yourself to a shop and have them check your drawlength, have the bow adjusted to that length, have the peep set so you can look through it without bending your neck, get yourself a Scott Lil-goose release and THEN worry about your form. You can't have good form if the bow doesn't fit you.
Hey Icedragon who set that bow up for you?
THat peep sight looks WAY too low! When you draw, your string should be touching the side of your nose and the peep should be right there at your eye!
I would argue that the draw length is indeed set too short for you.... while actually I would argue that NUBO's is too long! But then again Nubo isn't complaining of any accuracy problems.
Get yourself to a shop and have them check your drawlength, have the bow adjusted to that length, have the peep set so you can look through it without bending your neck, get yourself a Scott Lil-goose release and THEN worry about your form. You can't have good form if the bow doesn't fit you.