Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
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RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
ORIGINAL: Greg / MO
I'm surprised to hear that, big country... I'm a huge fan of the Guardian myself (just placed my order for my third one last week...) because it's plenty quiet of course, I like the string angle better (due to the longer a-to-a) and especially the fact I don't need a press for it.
BUT... I shot a General several times over the weekend at our shooting booth in Indy... and I will readily admit that it had even less hand shock and noise than the Guardian. Not crazy about the a-to-a myself, but it IS quieter and more shock-free... as hard as that would have been to imagine a year ago.
I was talking to our engineer who designed all our bows quite a bit this weekend, and he attributes it mainly to more limb preload (which you can see in a more pronounced arc when the bow is at brace, or rest), which minimizes limb-tip travel.
I'm surprised to hear that, big country... I'm a huge fan of the Guardian myself (just placed my order for my third one last week...) because it's plenty quiet of course, I like the string angle better (due to the longer a-to-a) and especially the fact I don't need a press for it.
BUT... I shot a General several times over the weekend at our shooting booth in Indy... and I will readily admit that it had even less hand shock and noise than the Guardian. Not crazy about the a-to-a myself, but it IS quieter and more shock-free... as hard as that would have been to imagine a year ago.
I was talking to our engineer who designed all our bows quite a bit this weekend, and he attributes it mainly to more limb preload (which you can see in a more pronounced arc when the bow is at brace, or rest), which minimizes limb-tip travel.
I still love the fact you don't need a press. And never was a big fan of the those cam stops.
Don't get me wrong, I would happily hunt with a general for a good price. Just prefer the guardian. In fact, I am on the hunt for a good price on a 07 model.
#12
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 64
RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
Hi, im new here, but not to bows or bowhunting, i dont mean to hi-jack this thread but i felt my question didnt warrant a new post. I too am looking for a new bow, The General is top of the list, but im also considering the DiamondMarquis and Black Ice. Now i know that the General would be the best shooting bow of the three but i can get a bare, Black Ice for $459 dollars, so with every thing else it should go for around 700 fully outfitted. Would probably save around 300-400 bucks from buying the General, is the General worth that much more????? My current bow is a Bear TRX so any of the newer bows would be a big improvement, Thanks for your answers....
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RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
ORIGINAL: centurion
Hi, im new here, but not to bows or bowhunting, i dont mean to hi-jack this thread but i felt my question didnt warrant a new post. I too am looking for a new bow, The General is top of the list, but im also considering the DiamondMarquis and Black Ice. Now i know that the General would be the best shooting bow of the three but i can get a bare, Black Ice for $459 dollars, so with every thing else it should go for around 700 fully outfitted. Would probably save around 300-400 bucks from buying the General, is the General worth that much more????? My current bow is a Bear TRX so any of the newer bows would be a big improvement, Thanks for your answers....
Hi, im new here, but not to bows or bowhunting, i dont mean to hi-jack this thread but i felt my question didnt warrant a new post. I too am looking for a new bow, The General is top of the list, but im also considering the DiamondMarquis and Black Ice. Now i know that the General would be the best shooting bow of the three but i can get a bare, Black Ice for $459 dollars, so with every thing else it should go for around 700 fully outfitted. Would probably save around 300-400 bucks from buying the General, is the General worth that much more????? My current bow is a Bear TRX so any of the newer bows would be a big improvement, Thanks for your answers....
Only you can really decide!
Dan
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RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
Now i know that the General would be the best shooting bow of the three but i can get a bare, Black Ice for $459 dollars, so with every thing else it should go for around 700 fully outfitted. Would probably save around 300-400 bucks from buying the General, is the General worth that much more????? My current bow is a Bear TRX so any of the newer bows would be a big improvement, Thanks for your answers....
What the General provides is a superior shooting experience. I have never shot a bow that shoots like the General. Though it is often repeated here there literally is no handshock or vibration in the shot. Noise levels are also the lowest I have experienced from an modern, adult compound bow.
As mentioned in my review of the three bows in question, the only real negative that the General has is the weight. It is about a pound heavier than the Black Ice. It is noticeable when you compare the two directly but I have found that after extensive use in the field you do not really tend to notice it much.
If we were talking full retail price for both bows I would say that you should get the General and never look back. Considering the price difference though I think the Black Ice would be the better option.
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RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
The Black Ice is probably the best bow for the money out there. Since I own one I can attest to the fact that you will never draw a bow smoother than a Black Ice! And for bowhunting asmooth draw is very important.
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RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
ORIGINAL: centurion
I too am looking for a new bow, The General is top of the list, but im also considering the DiamondMarquis and Black Ice. Now i know that the General would be the best shooting bow of the three but i can get a bare, Black Ice for $459 dollars
I too am looking for a new bow, The General is top of the list, but im also considering the DiamondMarquis and Black Ice. Now i know that the General would be the best shooting bow of the three but i can get a bare, Black Ice for $459 dollars
#17
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 64
RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
Guys thanks for the replies, like i said dont want to steal this thread, but i think everyone could benefit from the knowledge. PAbowhnter, it was your review that pushed me to even consider the black ice, with everyone so excited about the General i was pretty much set, but you seemed to really be pleased with the black ice. I usually buy a new bow every 5 years or so, with that i do want something that i can live with. I will post where to buy the Black Ice for that cheap price once i get itdont want their stock to disappear before i can make up my mind
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RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
Glad you found my review helpful. Both bows in question are at the top of the heap of today's models. There is a noticeable difference in shot feel between the two of them with the nod going to the General...but when you consider the price difference you posted it most certainly would not be worth it in my opinion.
Now, I greatly look forward to seeing what the Black Ice 2 or redesigned Black Ice actually shoots like. I would be genuinely shocked if they did not incorporate the roller guard and shortstop string suppressor on a 31 inch, single cam model for 2009. It makes too much sense.
Good luck with your bow.
Now, I greatly look forward to seeing what the Black Ice 2 or redesigned Black Ice actually shoots like. I would be genuinely shocked if they did not incorporate the roller guard and shortstop string suppressor on a 31 inch, single cam model for 2009. It makes too much sense.
Good luck with your bow.
#19
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 25
RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
I have been a hoyt man for 20yrs and was a co. shooter for them. BBUUTT i had the chance 2 shoot the new bowtech general. great great bow . the only thing i found bad so far is an article by bill krenze . he tested the new hoyt katera and the general. the general had 12 ft lbs less energy all things being the same. the speed was also, less but i dont remember how much. the article is in my car . and it's -22 so iam being lazy and not going OUT 2 get it. I WOULD BUY ONE.
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RE: Thinking about a buying a Bowtech General?
ORIGINAL: arrowum
I have been a hoyt man for 20yrs and was a co. shooter for them. BBUUTT i had the chance 2 shoot the new bowtech general. great great bow . the only thing i found bad so far is an article by bill krenze . he tested the new hoyt katera and the general. the general had 12 ft lbs less energy all things being the same. the speed was also, less but i dont remember how much. the article is in my car . and it's -22 so iam being lazy and not going OUT 2 get it. I WOULD BUY ONE.
I have been a hoyt man for 20yrs and was a co. shooter for them. BBUUTT i had the chance 2 shoot the new bowtech general. great great bow . the only thing i found bad so far is an article by bill krenze . he tested the new hoyt katera and the general. the general had 12 ft lbs less energy all things being the same. the speed was also, less but i dont remember how much. the article is in my car . and it's -22 so iam being lazy and not going OUT 2 get it. I WOULD BUY ONE.
Dan