how much
#5
Typical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2005
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RE: how much
Speaking of 80g powder I am having a lot of fun with that Norinco Cayugad. Since I put the Trophy red dot on it I have tried another conical besides the REAL. The Powerbelt 295g seems to also stabilize in that barrel I only shot two they hit less than an inch apart no keyholing at all. That was at 80yds with 80g fff Goex. So although I only took the two shots they seemed to group better than the REAL's with 80g fff. With 70g fff the REAL's were almost touching each other.
#6
RE: how much
ORIGINAL: Pittsburghunter
Speaking of 80g powder I am having a lot of fun with that Norinco Cayugad. Since I put the Trophy red dot on it I have tried another conical besides the REAL. The Powerbelt 295g seems to also stabilize in that barrel I only shot two they hit less than an inch apart no keyholing at all. That was at 80yds with 80g fff Goex. So although I only took the two shots they seemed to group better than the REAL's with 80g fff. With 70g fff the REAL's were almost touching each other.
Speaking of 80g powder I am having a lot of fun with that Norinco Cayugad. Since I put the Trophy red dot on it I have tried another conical besides the REAL. The Powerbelt 295g seems to also stabilize in that barrel I only shot two they hit less than an inch apart no keyholing at all. That was at 80yds with 80g fff Goex. So although I only took the two shots they seemed to group better than the REAL's with 80g fff. With 70g fff the REAL's were almost touching each other.
............ beyond 100 yards... depending on what other specific shot info you may offer us.
#8
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Watertown Tn
Posts: 336
RE: how much
It may be enough but I shoot 100grs and at 60-70 yds the sabot has had a hard time going all the way through a deer thus not creating a good blood trail. I would bump it up to 90 or 100 especially if you plan on taking 100 yd shots in the future.
#9
Join Date: Apr 2005
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RE: how much
At the risk of coming across like a total newBie (which I am), if 80 Gr. is enough, then why the push for magnum load rifles? I recently purchased a Thomson Omega that is able to load 150 Gr. of pyrodex or equivalent and pushes bullets to 2,250 or such. As a longtime rifle shooter/hunter and league skeet shooter I would like to know why (if you were able to) wouldn't you shoot the maximum powder charge available for that bullet (Assuming 3 things; 1. I'm shooting Whitetails. 2. Recoil isn't a factor and, 3. Accuracy loss at max loads in "relatively" insignificant. I'm currently shooting 250 Grain T/C shockwaves and Hornady SST's and XTP's...with3 50 Gr. pellets of 777. I usually drive a 168 Gr. bullet out of my -06 at 3,200 fps or so, or a 12 Guage slug at deer and am confused as to why you wouldnt want to propell a big muzzleloader bullet at the maximum speed that you can - remembering that physics tells us that increased velocity for a given weight bullet equals more kinetic energy, therefore more knockdown power.