help with a hard loading encore 50 cal
#11
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 986
RE: help with a hard loading encore 50 cal
I have slugged my bore and it is .500 on the money. I think one of the problems is that t/c uses a rather shallow rifling which is slanted towards sabots. Many of the other rifle barrels use deeper grooves which allows the sabot material a place to flow when loading. It also allows for a little more fouling as the grooves will give the fouling a place to go. I find that the thinner Harvester sabots make loading at least possible although the Powerbelts still load the easiest. I shoot the Hornady 300SST bullet but in a Harvester sabot for my first shot hunting. If I need a second fast follow-up shot I load a 295gr. Powerbelt and the POI is very close at 100 yards and worked just fine for me this year as my elk did not go down on the first shot and I had a second one in and shot within about 30 seconds. I am looking at Harvester Sabretooth bullets as they are less expensive than the Powerbelts.
#12
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PENNA
Posts: 55
RE: help with a hard loading encore 50 cal
powerbelts are expensive no doubt about a buck a piece,,,,and i have a starting toolas pictured thats not the problem,after that using the ramrod is very tough..im going to try some thinner sabots like harvester orgreen mmp but were do you get them at??midway doesnt have em..??
#13
RE: help with a hard loading encore 50 cal
buckslayer88,
http://www.wholesalehunter.com/produ...slerSabots.htm
www.mmpsabots.com - call them talk on the phone you are going to want the HPH-24's - the thin ones.
www.claybusterwads.com/harvester.html
www.gamaliel.com
www.midwayusa.com
www.prbullet.com
These are some places you might look at...
Got your e-mail will try to get some stuff off to you middle of the week...
Mike
http://www.wholesalehunter.com/produ...slerSabots.htm
www.mmpsabots.com - call them talk on the phone you are going to want the HPH-24's - the thin ones.
www.claybusterwads.com/harvester.html
www.gamaliel.com
www.midwayusa.com
www.prbullet.com
These are some places you might look at...
Got your e-mail will try to get some stuff off to you middle of the week...
Mike
#14
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 986
RE: help with a hard loading encore 50 cal
ORIGINAL: buckslayer88
powerbelts are expensive no doubt about a buck a piece,,,,and i have a starting toolas pictured thats not the problem,after that using the ramrod is very tough..im going to try some thinner sabots like harvester orgreen mmp but were do you get them at??midway doesnt have em..??
powerbelts are expensive no doubt about a buck a piece,,,,and i have a starting toolas pictured thats not the problem,after that using the ramrod is very tough..im going to try some thinner sabots like harvester orgreen mmp but were do you get them at??midway doesnt have em..??
#15
RE: help with a hard loading encore 50 cal
Get yourself a solid range rod for load development.
Also, ensure that you have removed all of the packing lube from the barrel. I use a quality bore solvent for this task like Butch's Bore Shine. 20-30 strokes with a brush and 20-30 strokes with patches.
Also, spit/damp patch, alcohol patch and dry patch inbetween each shot.
Try to ensure that the barrel is clean and bone dry.
The sabot is likely too large and as soon as you start getting any fouling buildup, then the more difficult loading begins. The xtp should not be that tough to load. The SST or Shockwave albeit a fantastic projectile is tougher to load.
I also like to shoot at least 40 lubed conicals and wads at moderate charge to help break in the new barrel. After shooting 20 conicals, use the bore solvent to remove any leading and continue. This is just something that I've found to help get a barrel broken in versus reaching for the lapping compound first thing.
Also, ensure that you have removed all of the packing lube from the barrel. I use a quality bore solvent for this task like Butch's Bore Shine. 20-30 strokes with a brush and 20-30 strokes with patches.
Also, spit/damp patch, alcohol patch and dry patch inbetween each shot.
Try to ensure that the barrel is clean and bone dry.
The sabot is likely too large and as soon as you start getting any fouling buildup, then the more difficult loading begins. The xtp should not be that tough to load. The SST or Shockwave albeit a fantastic projectile is tougher to load.
I also like to shoot at least 40 lubed conicals and wads at moderate charge to help break in the new barrel. After shooting 20 conicals, use the bore solvent to remove any leading and continue. This is just something that I've found to help get a barrel broken in versus reaching for the lapping compound first thing.
#16
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kent County, MD
Posts: 64
RE: help with a hard loading encore 50 cal
I have had my Encore for 2 years now and love the accuracy I get. It was really tight but reading posts on here I took advice to shoot a lot of solid lead bullets with my encore to loosen the barrel. It has seemed to help and the use of bore butter doesnt help but just hurts accuracy with sabots