Triple Se7en

Quigley

Off-topic....

Is the Swiss FF granules smaller than the Goex? What about FFF vs FFF? It's for my sidelocks & I'm worried about bore pressures using Swiss FFF in my 50 & 58-cals. I must buy a 5-jug minimum to offset HAZMAT fees. I want to make sure I get the right one so I'm asking users for their advice.

AJ52

Loose - American Pioneer(The old Clean Shot) in my Knight. Loose - Goex in my T/C and my semi retired CVA side Lock.

quigleysharps4570

Smaller on both counts...FFg and FFFg. The Swiss is more of a flake than granules like Goex. Has a different tint to it also, kind of a silver black, where the Goex is that dark, flat black. I don't use the 3F in my muzzleloader because I'm happy with the 2F Swiss. I do use the 3F in my blackpowder cartridges and am happy with it. The Swiss will burn cleaner too. Pressure wise, I'm sure you'll be fine, especially if you cut back about 10 percent to start with on that 3F. While the cleaner subject is on my mind...discovered a new lube that seems to be something. Was unsure of it when told about it by a gentleman a couple weeks ago til I ordered some and tried it. Took it out one day last week with the sole intention of fouling my barrel without wiping. Couldn't do it. Fired 20 rounds of patched roundball with 70grs. of 2F Goex and 5 of my REAL bullet with 80grs. of 2F Swiss, each time it loaded about as easy as the first one did. As for accuracy, about half way through my shooting a sparrow landed in a bush at 25yds. down towards my target, when the smoke cleared all I found was feathers. Was shooting off-hand. I'm happy with it. If you're interested I'll sure let you know. I would've never guessed it.

rick_reno

I've never tried pellets - I'm not sure why people use them.

LocknLoad

Loose always loose... Had a bad experience with the pellets and #11 primers. I don't use either now.

LnL

wingbar

777 pellets in my Omega and loose 777 in my flinters

charger19

Rick, because it's quick and easy.I only use the gun for deerhunting maybe 4 days a year.CVA Firebolt and it's plenty accurate enough for deer with two 50gr pellets at the range I shoot.

ahankster

Been muzzle loading a little over two seasons now.
Due to where I hunt, a military base, we can only use shotgun or muzzleloader. So, I use the muzzleloader almost exclusively. Hunt probably 5 or 6 afternoons a week and several mornings.

Use 777 50 grain pellets, two of them. No real reason, mainly because that is what I started with, my encore shoots them very well and I don't feel the need to try loose at this point. Have had excellent results, never a mis or hangfire.
R
Hank

Triple Se7en

Quig

I'll be testing a 45-cal T/C Renegade 1-60 ... also a 58-cal T/C Renegade 1-70 with the Swiss. Still not sure which one to get. Would you say the FF Swiss granules are as small as the FFF Goex??

Also... yes - you got my curiousity up about that bore lube you uncovered. I'm itching to know the source. The only guesses I have are mink oil or bear grease. Sounds like you might be sending me to Pep Boys or Auto Zone thou... lol.

quigleysharps4570

No they're not that much smaller Triple Se7en.
Yes you'll be going to a parts store for that lube. It is D&L Handcleaner. My brother-in-law runs a parts store so that is where I ordered mine. Rather than try to tell the story, you can read it on this thread. It starts down about the 8th reply on this thread and goes for a ways. Good luck and would like to hear your results if you decide to try it.
http://www.thehunterslife.com/forums...splay.php?f=19 The thread is bullet lube.