sabotloader

I just picked up a newer TC Hawkin 50 cal barrel with the QLA muzzle. I don't need it, but the price was tOOOOOO right. I know that TC barrels are tight or can be tight, the gentleman I purchased this gun from has only shot PRB's from it - very few at that, the bore is a bright mirror. My question is have any of you, shot sabots from this type of barrel? I am not intersted in power belts. I have a TC 54 it is almost impossibe to get sabots down it, so I am wondering about this barrel.

I am hoping I will get a chance to shoot it this weekend....

Thanks for the information in advance.

cayugad

My Hawkins is not a good sabot shooter.. but it does very well with PRB and conicals. It sounds like a good deal anyway to me. Have fun.

sabotloader

Cayugad,

Is yours one of the newer ones? This one is only 3 years old...
What make of sabots are you using? I have a lot of different ones on hand
I just wish i could walk out in the back yard like you and do some shooting - I have to drive awhile....

lonewolf5347

sabotloader : check out tradition web site,go to closeout items ,you will see the keith nose HP in the green sabot in 350 grains.I can tell you they easy to load in my t/c hawkens 50 cal. flinter and shoot great.I did purchase them off the tradition web site last year. I tried the Hornady SST and the xtp mag 240 grain,they will load in a clean barrel, after the shot the second one is a nitemare to get down the barrel,I won't try them at all.I found that thr REAL 320 grain conical and the keth HP 350 grainers shoot the same pattern with 85 grains of goex 3f.

cayugad

My Hawkins flintlock is one of the old ones. So old infact I had to send it back in for the newer model hammer and frizzen. It is a good roundball shooter and will shoot ball-ets excellent.

My two old Renegades are the old models also. They will not shoot a sabot to save their life. At least I have not found one, and I have very few sabots in .54 caliber to try in them.

sabotloader

Cayugad,

Got home this evening from school and could not wait for the weekend - so I got a Nosler sabot and a 45 cal - 300 grain XTP mag - dropped it in the QLA pushed a bit more with the tip of my thump - got the range rod and pushed it down the barrel - piece of cake... it went down with resistance nothing real tight at all. I figured I could do it because I could blow it out with a CO2 discharger. I am really encouraged but I will actually get to shoot it this weekend.

I have a really older Renegade 54 cal - that I do shoot sabots and it shoots really well. It is that one I got off e-bay and I think I told you before the barrel looked terrible inside and even after i did everthing I could do to clean it up - but with t7 and 300 grain XTP's it is really accurate.

cayugad

I just ordered a pack of Speer 300 grain PSP for the .54 caliber I am going to give them a try. I figured for what little I paid for them, if they do not shoot, I throw them in a different sabot and shoot them out of something just for the fun of it.

Tomorrow I am headed to the big city (if you can call it that) and see what Wal Mart has on sale again....

Who makes Nosler Sabots? I have MMP, Harvester, Knight, T/C and Claybuster but no Nosler.... I am willing to try anything as long as I can shoot...

Triple Se7en

I find the Noslers to be difficult to load. They seem to have changed plastic sabot manufacturers also. This time they appear to be MMP... just like T/C recently did by switching to Hornady. My most recent batch from Nosler featured tan 44/50s that were a bear to load. I threw the remaining 46 or-so leftover from the package away. I still have the black 45/50s. They are real thin & long petaled. I think they are MMP HPH-24s. However, they don't slide easy like the Harvesters. Both of these appear to be too soft of a plastic material that grabs the bore walls instead of slides. Stay with the Harvesters for tight bores... otherwise buy the MMP HPH-12s for normal/oversize bores.

I'm getting more n' more into shooting bulk Speer Gold Dot bullets. They come in 180, 200, 210, 240 and 270 grain for 50/54 caliber. I prefer the soft points . but I also own the hollows. They are just as accurate as the Hornadys. Eventually, I'm going to try Nosler bullets too. I see they come in .429 and .451 bulk too.

sabotloader

Cayugad,

I am not sure who does make the Nosler Sabot... They do not match the pattern of any of the big two (Harvester-MMP). Originally they wre using a very odd color, a washed out orange (54), a real pale red(50) and another odd color for 44's. I thought I could sit down here at school and recall of this information, but it escapes me.

Tonight when I get home I am going sit get them all out, all brands, and compare them again. I have always been convinced that they were not MMP. The new Noslers I bought from Wholesale Hunter did change color to the more common Black 50 - Green 44 - Orange 54. They way i TRY to tell the different manufactures are the bases. Anyway I try to compile a table tonight if I get a chance. I am pretty sure that the Nosler is slightly thinner than Harvester or MMP HPH-24's. If I do not give myself to much homework tonight that will be my "project." I think at one point I had myself believing that Nosler might be making their own....

Triple Se7en

Sabotloader

My purchase was relatively recent.. maybe a couple of months ago. First time I ever saw tan 44/50 sabots.