thumper9

I want to get started in muzzleloading and have a few guns in mind but there ae so many things to look at I need some help in choosing the right gun. The guns I am looking at are the CVA Optima 209Mag. w/29" barrel, CVA Kodiak 209 Mag. w/28" barrel, New England Heritage w/26" barrel and the Winchester Apex. Any thoughts and comments on these guns would be a big help.

newguy23

It seems like people really have a dislike for the Winchester... I am not sure if it is fair, since I have not shot one, but you hear very little positive about them.

I have not shot the CVA's either, but as an economic choice they appear to be well worth it from what I have read.

When I researched getting my first muzzleloader, I read all I could and came down to the decision of either a Knight DISC, TC Encore, or TC Omega. I didn't mind spending a little up front as I like to have a relationship with my guns. I ruled out the TC Encore because I don't like the way the stock feels and the interchangeable barrels is really on no consequence to me since I have a few other guns that would serve those purposes.

All in all it came down to the fact that I could get a thumbhole ss fluted barrel omega at a great price and so I got that... I am sure I would be happy with a knight disc as well.

If you are looking for a good bargain, it seems people are really happy with the TC Black Diamond.

Hope that helps, whatever you get I am sure you will like it!

MOTurkeyTamer

Most folks that you hear from on this and other forums that are happy with their gun and are getting great accuracy are most likely to be shooting a T/C or a Knight product. Just sumpin' to think about!

Triple Se7en

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thumper9

First time on message boards....I don't see my private message box????

Tree climber

thumper9 ; it depends on the $$$$ you want to spend and how much you gonna use the gun.
my wife and I shoot the CVA magbolt 150 in 45 cal. and have had great results.we use the powerbelts 225 hollow point and pyrodex pellets.
you can get the package from Bass-Pro with everything except powder for $199.00.scope included.a good choise for the $$$$.

you can't beat the TC guns,they have great guns and a warrenty that want wait for anyone.they cost a little more but well woth it.
My first BP gun was a TC hawken.that was 35 years ago.many have fallen to that gun.just had to have me one of those inlines.the CVA has been a good gun also.
best wishes on what ever you get.just make sure you learn from someone that knows BP.

thumper9

I have recieved some good information on buying a first muzzleloader. I have noticed that most of the replies have been to buy a bolt action like the Knight disc and CVA magbolt. I am just wondering if there is much of a difference in cleaning and operation between bolt or break apart, as far as time of cleaning and ease of operation. I have seen that it can be hard to get the cap into some bolt actions when there is a scope attached. this is pretty much the only reason I was looking at break apart guns such as the T/C Encore, CVA optima 209 and the New England Heritage. I also am wondering about weather proof, as I live in Minnesota so the gun will be exposed to harsh conditions. Any input will help.

graybeard 50

thumper9; I just bought a Traditions Persuit 50 cal. (189.00) and am shootihg 70 gr. 777 under a 295 gr. bower belt hollow point & am haveing great results. handle one & see what you think.








keep your pdr. dry

hrtshot

You Can't go wrong with a TC or Knight, I have owned both, and they are very reliable, accurate guns. I now have a TC Omega, and would not trade it for anything.

beast44k

The Knight DISCs are going pretty cheap right now. I bought a stainless steel barrel with camo stock from www.Natchezss.com for $260.00 and that's before a $50.00 rebate.
Oh yeah, I sighted the scope in at 75yards with 6 shots...the last two was dead center of target.