Shooting/reloading and cleaning?
#1
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: North East PA. but not home.
Posts: 743
Shooting/reloading and cleaning?
I want to shoot my inline in with 777 or black powder,i have 3 to do. These are to used by my Grandson and his father.
My question is; If i or we,get these zeroed in,than clean them,i want to shoot a fouling shot,to season the bores,how long before once fired barrels begin to pit or rust from the 777 or the black powder?
My question is; If i or we,get these zeroed in,than clean them,i want to shoot a fouling shot,to season the bores,how long before once fired barrels begin to pit or rust from the 777 or the black powder?
#2
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
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Mounting Man, weather conditions have a lot to do with what you can get away with. Down here in Louisiana humidity I want to clean a fouled bore within 24 hours regardless of whether the fouling is real black powder, Triple Seven, or Pyrodex. In a low humidity situation you could probably go a bit longer so long as you monitor the condition of the bore.
You might give consideration to hunting with a clean bore. It's a bit tedious to find out if the clean bore/first shot from a barrel is consistent. But I find it worth the trouble. You have to shoot at least three shots (five is better) at the same target with each shot from a fully clean, dry, and cold bore. After each clean bore shot, shoot a second shot with the fouled bore on a different target, with all second shots on the same target.
If the clean bore shots form a decent group, sight the gun in for that group. The target from the second shot/fouled bore shots will tell you what kind of Kentucky Windage is needed (if any) in the event a second hunting shot on a fouled bore is necessary.
You might give consideration to hunting with a clean bore. It's a bit tedious to find out if the clean bore/first shot from a barrel is consistent. But I find it worth the trouble. You have to shoot at least three shots (five is better) at the same target with each shot from a fully clean, dry, and cold bore. After each clean bore shot, shoot a second shot with the fouled bore on a different target, with all second shots on the same target.
If the clean bore shots form a decent group, sight the gun in for that group. The target from the second shot/fouled bore shots will tell you what kind of Kentucky Windage is needed (if any) in the event a second hunting shot on a fouled bore is necessary.
Last edited by Semisane; 10-09-2014 at 05:22 AM.
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,607
For quite a few years now I have swabbed the bore with a dry patch to remove any left over oil and then pop one primer. I hunt with it this way until I shoot. I hunt out West in the dry air and in the humid South as well as the dew covered Appalachians. FOR ME, it has not been a problem but I certainly wouldn't suggest anyone take my advice without experimenting first.
The other side of this is that I've owned more MLs than I care to admit and the majority of guns that come through my hands do not have a different POI from a "clean" bore (as described above) vs. a dirty bore. There is one manufacturer that seems to more prone to having this issue than all the others though.
I hope this helps.
The other side of this is that I've owned more MLs than I care to admit and the majority of guns that come through my hands do not have a different POI from a "clean" bore (as described above) vs. a dirty bore. There is one manufacturer that seems to more prone to having this issue than all the others though.
I hope this helps.
#4
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
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I've owned more MLs than I care to admit and the majority of guns that come through my hands do not have a different POI from a "clean" bore (as described above) vs. a dirty bore.
I've found the first shot from a clean bore that still has oil in it is much more likely to be out of group. Whereas the clean bore shot from a bore that has been wiped with a very wet alcohol patch (followed by a dry patch or two) before loading is likely to be within group.
#5
most rifles... there is little difference in POI from a clean to a dirty bore. Although I do have a Knight LK that will throw the first shot up to 2 inches out. So I do foul that bore. I then clean the rifles at the end of the say.
Depending on the weather, humidity, and environmental factors, with Triple Seven when I tested it on barrel steel it went three days before it showed any sign of even starting to rust. But again that was sitting inside my house on a shelf where I could watch it.
Try the rifles on a clean bore. Swab the barrel with an alcohol patch then a dry patch. Then pop three primers through it. Load it and see where it hits in relation to the second shot. They should be real close.
Depending on the weather, humidity, and environmental factors, with Triple Seven when I tested it on barrel steel it went three days before it showed any sign of even starting to rust. But again that was sitting inside my house on a shelf where I could watch it.
Try the rifles on a clean bore. Swab the barrel with an alcohol patch then a dry patch. Then pop three primers through it. Load it and see where it hits in relation to the second shot. They should be real close.
#6
Typical Buck
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Thanks guys. I think i will just swab a clean bore let them use the guns. Another reason,being that i won't be hunting with them and these are my guns and i don't want them to shoot and let the guns lay around for a few days.
I have been swabbing between shots for a few years but thought i might be wrong,doing that.
Thanks again,
I have been swabbing between shots for a few years but thought i might be wrong,doing that.
Thanks again,