Muzzleloader expertise needed.
#1
Muzzleloader expertise needed.
I know you all have been through this a least a dozen times, but I' m an avid bowhunter, been on this site for a couple of years and just in the market for a muzzleloader. Here is my conclusion: T/C Encore 50 cal or the T/C Omega 50 Cal.
I have a couple of questions and have received very good advice from most everyone on this site. If you could choose, which one is the best? Accuracy and knockdown power is my utmost concern, although the versitility of the Encore is attractive.
I have some reservation with the Encore, due to that I see many post here on the accuracy issues. Is there a good combination of bullets and powder that will limit my accuracy issues. I will be purchasing a Nikon Buckmaster scope 3-9X40mm to go on either gun. If the Encore, has anyone experienced issues with the interchanageable barrels and the use of a scope? I had one person state that keep the gun sighted in was difficult due to the many " moving" parts. What are your opinions, if any?
I know it' s a bunch of questions rolled up into one thread, but I could really use your alls help...again. Thanks again in advance.
Kelly
I have a couple of questions and have received very good advice from most everyone on this site. If you could choose, which one is the best? Accuracy and knockdown power is my utmost concern, although the versitility of the Encore is attractive.
I have some reservation with the Encore, due to that I see many post here on the accuracy issues. Is there a good combination of bullets and powder that will limit my accuracy issues. I will be purchasing a Nikon Buckmaster scope 3-9X40mm to go on either gun. If the Encore, has anyone experienced issues with the interchanageable barrels and the use of a scope? I had one person state that keep the gun sighted in was difficult due to the many " moving" parts. What are your opinions, if any?
I know it' s a bunch of questions rolled up into one thread, but I could really use your alls help...again. Thanks again in advance.
Kelly
#2
RE: Muzzleloader expertise needed.
I do not own either of those guns, but have shoot a few Encores to know enought that they are sweet shooters. In fact, I shot 2 in the past several weeks. Both had scopes on them and both shot well.
Any way I could convince you to check out the Knight DISC? I was in the same dilema as you a few years back and went w/ the Knight over the T/C. Either way, you can' t go wrong. Good luck w/ your purchase and I hope someone else can offer you more help than I did.
Any way I could convince you to check out the Knight DISC? I was in the same dilema as you a few years back and went w/ the Knight over the T/C. Either way, you can' t go wrong. Good luck w/ your purchase and I hope someone else can offer you more help than I did.
#3
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lower Alabama, USA
Posts: 49
RE: Muzzleloader expertise needed.
kcison,
I' m an avid bowhunter also and since I did not buy a new bow this spring I bought the Encore 209x50. I bought the Encore because of its versatility and I bought an extra 30-06 barrell and forearm to go with it. I can' t tell you that it is more accurate or better than the Omega, but it is really well made and my Encore seems to be accurate. In Alabama we can' t use a scope on BP guns but I have a scope on the 30-06 barrell. I can shot the BP and then change to the 30-06 and the 30-06 is dead on every time. I have had no problems with accuracy what so ever when swapping either barrell. I have tried several loads in the Encore and it seems to like 95 grains of 777 (loose powder) and 330 grain keith nose hp sabots (precision bullets). Good luck with which ever BP gun you go with. I thought archery was addictive but there are so many bullet and powder combinations to play with that I am now addicted to BP and archery. By the way from your post you were looking for muzzleloader expertise just to let you know I am about as new to muzzleloading as you can get (5 months) as this is the first BP gun I have ever owned. But there are a lot of guys here that can help you.
I' m an avid bowhunter also and since I did not buy a new bow this spring I bought the Encore 209x50. I bought the Encore because of its versatility and I bought an extra 30-06 barrell and forearm to go with it. I can' t tell you that it is more accurate or better than the Omega, but it is really well made and my Encore seems to be accurate. In Alabama we can' t use a scope on BP guns but I have a scope on the 30-06 barrell. I can shot the BP and then change to the 30-06 and the 30-06 is dead on every time. I have had no problems with accuracy what so ever when swapping either barrell. I have tried several loads in the Encore and it seems to like 95 grains of 777 (loose powder) and 330 grain keith nose hp sabots (precision bullets). Good luck with which ever BP gun you go with. I thought archery was addictive but there are so many bullet and powder combinations to play with that I am now addicted to BP and archery. By the way from your post you were looking for muzzleloader expertise just to let you know I am about as new to muzzleloading as you can get (5 months) as this is the first BP gun I have ever owned. But there are a lot of guys here that can help you.
#4
RE: Muzzleloader expertise needed.
If I had the extra cash I' d go with the Encore .50cal and then buy a .22-250 heavy barrel. The T/C Encore is a beautiful and exceptionally well made rifle system, and you can' t beat the ability to switch the barrel to one of approx. 50 something different centerfire rifle or pistol calibers, and shotgun gauges.
If you want to save a little bit of money, then the Omega is a great choice. From what I understand, the Omega' s barrel is virtually identical to the Encore' s, except for the parts that mount them to their respective rifle actions. Their barrels are the same length (don' t believe the advertising hype, if measured from breech to muzzle they are the same), have the same muzzle system (QLA) and share the same breech plugs.
You won' t go wrong with either gun.
Mike
If you want to save a little bit of money, then the Omega is a great choice. From what I understand, the Omega' s barrel is virtually identical to the Encore' s, except for the parts that mount them to their respective rifle actions. Their barrels are the same length (don' t believe the advertising hype, if measured from breech to muzzle they are the same), have the same muzzle system (QLA) and share the same breech plugs.
You won' t go wrong with either gun.
Mike
#5
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,092
RE: Muzzleloader expertise needed.
If money isn' t a significant issue, definitely go with the Encore between those two rifles. Much better made gun IMHO. Not to say the Omegas won' t shoot, but the overall design and materials of the Encore are superior. And, if you have big hands, the Omega may punish them as its small trigger guard area can be brutal.
#6
RE: Muzzleloader expertise needed.
Only one person I know has hands THAT big![&:]
They are both good guns-- same rifling, same barrel material, same breechplugs. I liked the Encore a bit better, performance-wise they are very close.
They are both good guns-- same rifling, same barrel material, same breechplugs. I liked the Encore a bit better, performance-wise they are very close.
#7
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Havre de Grace MD USA
Posts: 703
RE: Muzzleloader expertise needed.
You can see from my signature that I own the T/C Encore.
I love it. All the rifled barrels have m.o.a. accuracy. A solid all around rifle for all game species, just switch the barrel and forend.
If I already had an arsenal of rifles I might consider the Omega, but I got the Encore and then cleaned out my gun cabinet. No point in having dust collectors!
I have never been sorry. 1 shot 1 kill!
My load for my ML:
3- 50x50 Pyro pellets
1- 220gr. " Dead Center" polymer tipped boat tail sabot
1- 209 Winchester shot shell primer
Delivers 1-1.5 m.o.a. all day
Good luck and good hunting!
I love it. All the rifled barrels have m.o.a. accuracy. A solid all around rifle for all game species, just switch the barrel and forend.
If I already had an arsenal of rifles I might consider the Omega, but I got the Encore and then cleaned out my gun cabinet. No point in having dust collectors!
I have never been sorry. 1 shot 1 kill!
My load for my ML:
3- 50x50 Pyro pellets
1- 220gr. " Dead Center" polymer tipped boat tail sabot
1- 209 Winchester shot shell primer
Delivers 1-1.5 m.o.a. all day
Good luck and good hunting!