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Old 05-31-2012, 03:04 AM
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Semi - I would think that a 1:24 to 1:30 would work. I often thought of trying .451 bullets out of my GM LRH 45 barrel. Trouble is buying store bought they are probably cast too hard. And I don't want to get a mould just to see if they shoot.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:16 AM
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Doc White is a true gentleman. Yesterday I sent him an e-mail posing the question. He replied this morning.

Here's his reply.

LAND TO LAND SHOULD BE .430, GROOVES .035 DEEP, NO DEEPER THAN .040, TWIST
FOR THE 250 GR BULLET 1-32, NO FASTER THAN 1-28 FOR A 300 GR BULLET, hOWARD
KELLY IS YOUR BEST BET, AT WEBERTOWN RIFLEWORKS, ON THE NET. doc
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:54 AM
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Trouble is buying store bought they are probably cast too hard.
Bronko, a little while ago I sent an e-mail to Hornady asking for the Brinnel hardness level of the Frontier line of cold swaged lead bullets. I load the Frontier .314/90 grain semi-wadcutters for light plinking loads in a .32 Mag handgun. They seem to be pretty soft and are pin-point accurate in my little revolver.

I often thought of trying .451 bullets out of my GM LRH 45 barrel.
Hornady has .452 and .454 bullets in the Frontier line, but no .451s. I don't know how the .452s would fit. See them here. http://www.hornady.com/store/Lead-Pi...ullets/?page=2

I had thought about going with the .45s for my little project. But the heaviest .452 is 230 grains and has a round nose profile, which is not what I want. The .454/255 grain flat point looks pretty darn good, but I decided to go with the .430 because it would give me the option of both a Semi Wad Cutter or SWC Hollow Point in 240 grain.

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Old 05-31-2012, 09:16 AM
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Semi, I think that you are off one decimal place with the .035" groove depth. I am quite sure it should be .0035". I was off .0005" earlier when you asked the groove depth and I said I thought it was .003".
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:22 AM
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Don't know Flounder. That .035 is a direct quote from Doc White's e-mail.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:34 AM
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Don't want to squabble at all Semi, but Doc may have made a typo. I know Knight rifles have a depth of groove of .005 to .006 and Doc's rifles have shallower grooves. Even deep grooved round ball shooting barrels have grooves that are only around .010.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:47 AM
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Not squabbling at all. I think you're right. Actually, I was surprised he recommended .430 land to land for the .429 bullet. I expected .429 or even something like .425.

(OOPS. Brain out of gear when I posted the above. The bullets are .430, not .429. Doc's recommendation would be an exact fit.)

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Old 05-31-2012, 09:52 AM
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Here is a link to something doc wrote. I find it very informative.
http://www.whitemuzzleloading.com/my...oading_rif.htm
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:10 AM
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Great link Flounder! Thanks. I've never seen that article before. Now I understand his thinking in recommending .430 land to land.
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