I trust Knights and you should to.
09-17-2011, 05:38 PM
#21
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: MD/PA Line
Posts: 598
The groups from my last range trip with my Omega .45 were only 50yds to get the new scope ready for 100yd shooting. I have yet to shoot since then since my club experienced alot of damage from the flooding that occurred a week of so ago. All ranges have been closed for repairs.
This was my sight in target at 100yds last year with the same gun and a Nikon Omega 3-9x40 BDC scope. Load was 110gr BH209, 200gr SST in blue Harvester sabot.
This was another 100yd group with 100gr BH209.
Just wanted to clear things up that the groups posted were only 50yds.
My most favorite inline right now is my TC Pro Hunter w/.45 Encore Bergara barrel.
My .45 Elite did this at 100yds with 100gr BH209 and a 200gr SST and 195gr Barnes MZ. Groups opened up with 110gr. and 120gr.
We all have our favorites. I own a bunch and try my best to shoot them all. This puppy has been neglected and is starting to get ticked at me for not taking it out to play.
Harvester 330gr Hardcasts at 100yds.
115gr BH209 and a 330gr Hardcast kicks like a mule!
This was my sight in target at 100yds last year with the same gun and a Nikon Omega 3-9x40 BDC scope. Load was 110gr BH209, 200gr SST in blue Harvester sabot.
This was another 100yd group with 100gr BH209.
Just wanted to clear things up that the groups posted were only 50yds.
My most favorite inline right now is my TC Pro Hunter w/.45 Encore Bergara barrel.
My .45 Elite did this at 100yds with 100gr BH209 and a 200gr SST and 195gr Barnes MZ. Groups opened up with 110gr. and 120gr.
We all have our favorites. I own a bunch and try my best to shoot them all. This puppy has been neglected and is starting to get ticked at me for not taking it out to play.
Harvester 330gr Hardcasts at 100yds.
115gr BH209 and a 330gr Hardcast kicks like a mule!
09-17-2011, 05:44 PM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
I don't agree with that statement. And I would go as far as betting alot of money that maybe one or two out of every ten members on this board can shoot a consistent 4" group at 200 yards with their MZ.
And I would also bet that the vast majority of the MZ's out there will not shoot a 4" group at 200 yards regardless of who the shooter is.
I have been around way to many MZ's to think that there is even a grain of truth in your statement. No way!!
And how many actually put that guarantee in writing?? How many??
Shooting an MZ at 50 or 75 yards is one thing. Shooting an MZ at 200 yards is a totally different ball game. Tom.
09-17-2011, 05:46 PM
#23
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: MD/PA Line
Posts: 598
Sabotloader,
My .45 Omega, to the best of my knowledge, was bought by the origional owner with the laminated TH stock. It still has the QLA. The only thing that was done with it was the flash hole was drilled out to .035. I have since replaced it with an origional plug with whatever flash hole size TC uses and it does great with BH209. It has never misfired on me.
You might be thinking of my .45 Encore Bergara barrel that Bellm cut the QLA off and recrowned.
My .45 Omega, to the best of my knowledge, was bought by the origional owner with the laminated TH stock. It still has the QLA. The only thing that was done with it was the flash hole was drilled out to .035. I have since replaced it with an origional plug with whatever flash hole size TC uses and it does great with BH209. It has never misfired on me.
You might be thinking of my .45 Encore Bergara barrel that Bellm cut the QLA off and recrowned.
09-17-2011, 05:47 PM
#24
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 550
That's a valid point. I sometimes forget that the open plains where you can see for miles and miles is not the average hunting ground for most. And I never meant to imply that only knights shoot accurate, I only mean that the Knights I have are more accurate or were easier to find an accurate load for than any other gun I have. It something that can't be explained really. A person justdevelopers an affinity for a certain thing and others become secondary. For some it's TC, Cva or knight. Or fords instead of mopar etc. But once that affinity developes a person will stand up and defend their choice to the very end. for me that's the Mountaineer, at the moment anyway
Like i have said, I wish there was a dealer or a owner close to me so i could shoulder one.... but, to date I have never shouldered a better feeling MLer than my Endeavor and that is what matters to me.... accuracy is a side note, to me they all shoot sufficient enough to do the job, out to 200yds..
I am not knocking the knight, i just find it hard to believe that it is better quality or a better shooter than my endeavor... I know some have had issues with theirs but mine is stock out of the box and have no problem wearing a 1" bullseye out of a target at 100 yards.. and in reality that is all you can ask and is a dead deer.....
Sorry Omega I thought that was a 100yd. target....
Last edited by EndeavorShooter; 09-17-2011 at 05:53 PM.
09-17-2011, 05:54 PM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Yucca Valley,Ca
Posts: 2,496
I don't agree with that statement. And I would go as far as betting alot of money that maybe one or two out of every ten members on this board can shoot a consistent 4" group at 200 yards with their MZ.
And I would also bet that the vast majority of the MZ's out there will not shoot a 4" group at 200 yards regardless of who the shooter is.
I have been around way to many MZ's to think that there is even a grain of truth in your statement. No way!!
And how many actually put that guarantee in writing?? How many??
Shooting an MZ at 50 or 75 yards is one thing. Shooting an MZ at 200 yards is a totally different ball game. Tom.
And I would also bet that the vast majority of the MZ's out there will not shoot a 4" group at 200 yards regardless of who the shooter is.
I have been around way to many MZ's to think that there is even a grain of truth in your statement. No way!!
And how many actually put that guarantee in writing?? How many??
Shooting an MZ at 50 or 75 yards is one thing. Shooting an MZ at 200 yards is a totally different ball game. Tom.
09-17-2011, 06:17 PM
#26
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
Sabotloader,
My .45 Omega, to the best of my knowledge, was bought by the origional owner with the laminated TH stock. It still has the QLA. The only thing that was done with it was the flash hole was drilled out to .035. I have since replaced it with an origional plug with whatever flash hole size TC uses and it does great with BH209. It has never misfired on me.
You might be thinking of my .45 Encore Bergara barrel that Bellm cut the QLA off and recrowned.
My .45 Omega, to the best of my knowledge, was bought by the origional owner with the laminated TH stock. It still has the QLA. The only thing that was done with it was the flash hole was drilled out to .035. I have since replaced it with an origional plug with whatever flash hole size TC uses and it does great with BH209. It has never misfired on me.
You might be thinking of my .45 Encore Bergara barrel that Bellm cut the QLA off and recrowned.
09-17-2011, 06:48 PM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
Posts: 3,925
Both your guns are vertical stringing pretty bad. If you increase the charge those groups will really tighten up. I'm not suggesting you shoot more then what your gun can handle. I know you are safe with a Knight Elite.
09-17-2011, 07:16 PM
#29
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: MD/PA Line
Posts: 598
Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes I do not let the barrel cool properly when its hot out. 
Time will tell with the Omega. The 50yd groups were shot with 105gr of BH209 so I will see how it does at 100yds with that load. Actually I just threw 25 charges with 72gr of BH209 threw my new Chargemaster 1500 tonight. 72gr by weight is just a tad more then my volume measurer throws set at 105.
GM54-120,
25 charges thrown, zero errors. This Chargemaster is sweet!
Time will tell with the Omega. The 50yd groups were shot with 105gr of BH209 so I will see how it does at 100yds with that load. Actually I just threw 25 charges with 72gr of BH209 threw my new Chargemaster 1500 tonight. 72gr by weight is just a tad more then my volume measurer throws set at 105. GM54-120,
25 charges thrown, zero errors. This Chargemaster is sweet!
09-17-2011, 07:52 PM
#30
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 369