50calty

300 grain for an inline muzzleloader bullet. I just don't know if a jacketed pistol bullet will less grains could knock down an elk. I guess a person would have to chrono them and find out. Anything less than 1000 fpe I would have doubt killing any elk quick. It may kill one, just not quick. And if you want to track for ever and a day. I just dont know. Last hunting season my 300 grain XTP bullets knocked everything down and the went less than 25 yards. EXECPT for one stupied doe deer. It was a double lung shot and she went 200 yards, almost lost her. So...what does that tell you? Probably nothing, sometimes its just a fluke. Just gotta shoot what your confident in and do testing. I"ve always liked the frozen milk jug. Figure if a bullet can make it crushed ice and pass through it would be fine on large game. I plan on Chorono the 300 grain XTPS this summer. So i will report that when I do it.

Muley Hunter

Most guys think of a bull when they think elk. A medium cow is much easier to kill.

However, I changed my plans today. I went to the range and shot a lot. Too much. I'm sore. I tried to simulate hunting situations. Nobody else was at the range, so I was free to do what I wanted.

I came to one conclusion. I'm freaking blind. I'm not reliable enough with open sights. Some days I shoot them good. Today wasn't one of them. Maybe the day I have an elk in my sights won't be one of them either. I don't think I should take the chance.

So, there I sat all alone. No balls left, no powder, and a long face. Crap! Getting old really really sucks!

Ok, I gathered myself up, loaded my stuff back in the Jeep, and came up with a plan.

The obvious answer was a scope. Since I have a special permit to shoot a scope during ML season here. I can use it all the time.

I'm loaded up and sitting behind the wheel thinking what to do. My dog keeps batting my arm with his paw. Wondering why we aren't going.

I refuse to put a scope on a sidelock. Besides, if I use a scope. It should be on a gun that will shoot farther. I see no way out of this except to buy another inline. Cripes!

Determined to not spend a bunch of money. I drive to my local gun shop. On the way i'm making a decision on what to buy. It has to be cheap, but not a piece of junk.

I settle on a CVA Wolf package deal that comes with a gun case and mounted Konus scope. $230 out the door.

I get it next week. I'll figure out what bullet/powder to use then.

Muley Hunter

Maybe a 300gr in a sabot (45 cal) is needed. I think a full bore Thor 250gr will be fine for a cow elk, and Terry at Thor thinks it would be fine for a bull too. We all know how the Barnes penetrates and expands. Good shot placement should knock her down.

MountainDevil54

Cow - Bull, their vitals are still the same and you hunt them the same way. Put it behind the shoulder and squeeze the trigger.

Muley Hunter

Do you think it's easier to knock down a woman, or a man?

Same vitals.

50calty

Thats true. Those old bulls will take more of a beating. Look at a Mountain Goat. Same vitals as a deer, antelope, etc. But jeeze, they can take a whole clip and just stand there at take it. Guess it just depends what the animal has went through.

50calty

Muley don't you have an OMEGA? Wouldn't that work instead of buying a new gun? Just wondering

Muley Hunter

No, I sold it when I thought I was going to stay traditional.

I give up, and give in to inlines.

MountainDevil54

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Muley Hunter

I came close to buying one about a year ago. Only I was looking at the Rocky Mountain version.

It's one of the few Pedersoli guns that I like.