New APP - Super Powder
03-19-2011, 06:13 PM
#81
Boone & Crockett
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
sabot, I'll check it out tomorrow and post it, then I'll weigh out 100gr. and see how it checks out with the volume measure set at 100gr.. I'll also see if the larger chunks will ignite by themselves also. Still learning how to navigate around the computer. 37 years of driving trucks and now trying to learn how to run a computer is a whole new game. If you can receive pictures on your phone I'll send you a picture. I sent one of my wife's .380 in pink, don't know if you got it or not.
Sent you a pm...
03-19-2011, 06:27 PM
#83
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
This is supposed to be the new one. Does it look like this?
Last edited by Gm54-120; 03-19-2011 at 06:29 PM.
03-19-2011, 07:03 PM
#85
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
To anyone that thinks "new fangled" stuff doesn't extend your limits. Lets test that idea deep in a remote grizzly bear area and the only way to supply meat/protection is a rifle for a month or two. You get a tent, a knife/axe, the clothes on your back and your choice of ML, 30 projectiles, primers/caps and a pound powder. Plus a few cooking utensils and enough water.
You gunna choose a PRB shooter and BP or something that gives you a little edge? Something you can reload faster, Something that requires a little less up keep. Something with a little more range and knock down at that longer range.
I think when it comes to survival the tune of the buckskinners will change enough to help insure their survival.
Last edited by Gm54-120; 03-19-2011 at 07:10 PM.
03-19-2011, 07:56 PM
#86
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
Tell that to the guys who are shooting at 1,000 yards with BPCR cartridge rifles. Or with a Gibbs rifle shooting black powder. They only shoot black powder. If it is good enough for them. Then it should certainly be good enough to shoot to 200 or so yards with in lines?? Or am I wrong about that?? I am just not sure what limits it extends?? Tom.
I said the PRB has it's limits, and it does. A 100yd shot with a PBR should be your limit for small white tails. A big muley or elk should be closer.
A modern ML will kill at 200 yds safely.
It's not so much the black powder, because you can load it up heavy. It's the PRB that's inefficient.
03-19-2011, 11:09 PM
#88
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
I will not argue about PRB's. But there is no saboted bullet on the market that will compete with a 400 or 500 grain conical out of a 50 caliber rifle. And at distances way past 200 yards. That is what I was referring to when I was talkng about BPCR shooting. However my front stuffer shoots a 525 grain bullet that I cast. And I can guarantee you that bullet is substantially more effective on deer at 200 yards over any saboted bullet choice you can find, or is available. You just have to know how to shoot them. And when you shoot at distances past 150 yards you can not use bullet drop as a major difference. Because both heavy conicals and saboted bullets need to know the proper range for good shot placement. Yes the saboted bullet may be a bit flatter to 200 yards, but it is not as effective as that heavy conical. And BP will shove that heavy conical with no problem at all.
That is the only point I was trying to make. I don't think there is any magic powder. I think it is all in the shooter. And I also really do not think there is alot of difference between a heavy conical in a front stuffer, and a heavy conical in a 45-70 BPCR. If you know your rifle, your load, and you have the ability. I have seen too many people shoot long range with both rigs. And in both rigs they are shooting big heavy conicals. Not saboted bullets. Just an opinion.
Join the LRML forum. If you already haven't. And listen to those guys talk about long range shooting. You will not believe what some of those guys can do. And they are doing it with BP. Not some new fangled powders. An they are shooting heavy conicals. And few are shooting in lines. Tom.
That is the only point I was trying to make. I don't think there is any magic powder. I think it is all in the shooter. And I also really do not think there is alot of difference between a heavy conical in a front stuffer, and a heavy conical in a 45-70 BPCR. If you know your rifle, your load, and you have the ability. I have seen too many people shoot long range with both rigs. And in both rigs they are shooting big heavy conicals. Not saboted bullets. Just an opinion.
Join the LRML forum. If you already haven't. And listen to those guys talk about long range shooting. You will not believe what some of those guys can do. And they are doing it with BP. Not some new fangled powders. An they are shooting heavy conicals. And few are shooting in lines. Tom.
03-20-2011, 04:29 AM
#89
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,037
To anyone that thinks "new fangled" stuff doesn't extend your limits. Lets test that idea deep in a remote grizzly bear area and the only way to supply meat/protection is a rifle for a month or two. You get a tent, a knife/axe, the clothes on your back and your choice of ML, 30 projectiles, primers/caps and a pound powder. Plus a few cooking utensils and enough water.
You gunna choose a PRB shooter and BP or something that gives you a little edge? Something you can reload faster, Something that requires a little less up keep. Something with a little more range and knock down at that longer range.
I think when it comes to survival the tune of the buckskinners will change enough to help insure their survival.
Last edited by flounder33; 03-20-2011 at 04:32 AM.
03-20-2011, 05:09 AM
#90
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Tell that to the guys who are shooting at 1,000 yards with BPCR cartridge rifles. Or with a Gibbs rifle shooting black powder. They only shoot black powder. If it is good enough for them. Then it should certainly be good enough to shoot to 200 or so yards with in lines?? Or am I wrong about that?? I am just not sure what limits it extends?? Tom.