Very interesting finding!
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Very interesting finding!
I made a surprising finding this afternoon. while preparing my Triumph for it's test run using Bh209 instead of the usual 777 loose. knowing my breech plug flash channel should be 1/8 inch, i decided to run a 1/8 inch drill bit through it.mind you i take pride in keeping my weapons clean, soaking my breech plug after every session and using a pipe cleaner also.imagine my surprise when i tried a 1/8 bit and it did not fit down the channel. so i decided to try a 7/64 which is one step below 1/8. it indeed fit. after reading mention from Ronlaughlin regarding windex and vinegar, i pour a mixture of vinegar and windex in a small plastic dish and let it soak for about 10 minutes, which is what i usually do with the BP after a session with 777. only difference is i use windex/ ammonia. after the soaking i removed the BP and started with the 7/64, then followed with the 1/8 bit. it is now clean as a whistle.."for those of you out there using 777" the carbon buildup associated with BH209 can also happen with 777, this stuff was hard to remove with just a drill bit. i suggest everyone out there using 777 find the proper size bit and give it a try, in order to be sure that your BP does not have this nasty carbon buildup also.." Ron "was spot on with his suggestion of windex/vinegar for Bh 209 carbon build up. i would strongly suggest 777 users use this mixture and a drill bit also.. pure vineagar or a stronger 50/50 mix, seemed to work even better.. Ray
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yep it develops with all powders. T7 though i noticed in the flash channel is a white color. Winchester W209 primers also develop a much harder crud in the BP.
Pipe cleaners - Flash channel brushes = worthless when properly cleaning a BP.
How'd you do on the range Ray?
Pipe cleaners - Flash channel brushes = worthless when properly cleaning a BP.
How'd you do on the range Ray?
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yep it develops with all powders. T7 though i noticed in the flash channel is a white color. Winchester W209 primers also develop a much harder crud in the BP.
Pipe cleaners - Flash channel brushes = worthless when properly cleaning a BP.
How'd you do on the range Ray?
Pipe cleaners - Flash channel brushes = worthless when properly cleaning a BP.
How'd you do on the range Ray?
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Now i am aware of that,one of the main points of posting this thread was that the carbon issue seems to be a negative with some where Bh209 is concerned..well it's a issue with 777 also and i would imagine pyrodex also to a lesser degree... Ray
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Any BP that uses a 209 primer will get fouled up with carbon regardless of the powder used. Some primers create more foulng then others. Most who shoot T7 or Pyrodex do not have ignition problems even with a fouled plug because they ignite easily. BH209 is a whole new game. Western Powders just recently updated their website and shows proper BP maintenance. I have turned a few shooters onto BH209 by offering to let them try a few shots at the range. 1st thing I do is have them pull the BP and I decarbon it. This shows them what needs to be done to properly ignite BH209. I then show them how to seat the load hard on the powder.
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Another thing that helps its putting a good polish IN the primer pocket and channel. Its pretty tedious but does help for a long time. The Lehighs already are very nice in this regard but the proper Dremel bits and some Mothers metal polish makes it look like chrome. Carbon has a much harder time sticking to a polished or chromed surface. The vent pocket has a nice polish finish on it and it practically wipes clean with a little solvent and 2 patches. Make sure its totally oil free before shooting and life is good.
Another thing that helps its putting a good polish IN the primer pocket and channel. Its pretty tedious but does help for a long time. The Lehighs already are very nice in this regard but the proper Dremel bits and some Mothers metal polish makes it look like chrome. Carbon has a much harder time sticking to a polished or chromed surface. The vent pocket has a nice polish finish on it and it practically wipes clean with a little solvent and 2 patches. Make sure its totally oil free before shooting and life is good.
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Any BP that uses a 209 primer will get fouled up with carbon regardless of the powder used. Some primers create more foulng then others. Most who shoot T7 or Pyrodex do not have ignition problems even with a fouled plug because they ignite easily. BH209 is a whole new game. Western Powders just recently updated their website and shows proper BP maintenance. I have turned a few shooters onto BH209 by offering to let them try a few shots at the range. 1st thing I do is have them pull the BP and I decarbon it. This shows them what needs to be done to properly ignite BH209. I then show them how to seat the load hard on the powder.