New gun (soon) - what to do next
02-11-2011, 09:27 PM
#1
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: MN
Posts: 1,068
New gun (soon) - what to do next
Well, I've thought about it a lot, probably more than I should, but I decided to put the Pro Hunter that I looked at last weekend on hold and go pick it up this weekend. Long story short, I've wanted one for a long time and it wasn't until this last week or so that I started going back and forth whether it was really the gun I wanted.
So my next question is what is best to do next. I'm thinking I might try to get some Montana Xtreme bore solvent and conditioner for it's initial cleaning. Is it worth some JB's in there also? I'm also going to try to get some gold dots/deep curls for use in it. What size is everyone having the most luck with? And last, I would really like a set of quick release scope rings as I plan to scope it for paper and coyotes, but can't keep it scoped for muzzleloader season. What's a decent setup that is still affordable?
So my next question is what is best to do next. I'm thinking I might try to get some Montana Xtreme bore solvent and conditioner for it's initial cleaning. Is it worth some JB's in there also? I'm also going to try to get some gold dots/deep curls for use in it. What size is everyone having the most luck with? And last, I would really like a set of quick release scope rings as I plan to scope it for paper and coyotes, but can't keep it scoped for muzzleloader season. What's a decent setup that is still affordable?
02-12-2011, 12:47 AM
#2
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Indiana
Posts: 366
SuperKirby, i don't know what your budget is but if your looking for quick-detach. scope rings you should check out the Warne Maxima quick-detach. steel scope rings and the Warne Maxima 1-piece Weaver-style steel base for your T/C. Warne products usually cost a few dollars more than your standard rings but in my opinion they are worth it. I have Warne rings/base on my Triumph. Check out Opticsplanet.com for a competitive price with free shipping and no sales tax(unless you live in Illinois). I have never used Gold Dots/Deep Curls but alot of people on here use them and get excellent results with them. I have never used JB products but again alot of people on here do and swear by them. I did use Flitz metal polish and Kroil penetrating oil on the bore of my triumph when it was new because it was under-sized and tighter than all get-out. If the bore would have been standard size and easier to load i doubt i would have used the flitz polish on it. Some people use JB or Flitz on every gun they buy; others just use it only when they feel they need to. Just a matter of personal preference imo. -Q 
02-12-2011, 05:46 AM
#3
Typical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 581
I'll agree with quake on the Warne quick release rings. Just got them for my Renegade. Only paid 60 for them. WAY cheaper than TC's rings and they are steal too. As for the sabots. I used the mmp black, they seemed to do the trick. If you don't have a scope I would get the Nikon Omega. Have that scope on two rifles, Triumph and Marlin .450. As for cleaning, i don't think JB would be needed. I think you using the MT Xtreme products will work just fine
02-12-2011, 06:00 AM
#4
Nontypical Buck
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Thanks guys. I wasn't sure about the JB's. I'll wait until the first range session and go from there. For now I'll just stick with the MX stuff and call it good. And I'll definately look into the Warne's. I have a scope to use for now. It's a Bushnell Banner. Not tops, but so far it's worked for me. I think my next scope I really want to try one of the Redfields. I've heard great things about them for the cost. My understanding is they're owned and operated by Leupold using Leupold's parts and products from a year or two ago.
02-12-2011, 06:25 AM
#5
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
SuperKirby
Ihad one of the newer Redfield scopes it is in the drawer now for the recoil of a 50 caliber Omega tore its inards to pieces in a few months shooting 100gr load of powder with 250 gr bullets. Now I buy either Bushnell or Nikon. I am not saying they are all bad but this was one of there more expensive scopes and I would hate to get taken like that again.
Ihad one of the newer Redfield scopes it is in the drawer now for the recoil of a 50 caliber Omega tore its inards to pieces in a few months shooting 100gr load of powder with 250 gr bullets. Now I buy either Bushnell or Nikon. I am not saying they are all bad but this was one of there more expensive scopes and I would hate to get taken like that again.
02-12-2011, 07:22 AM
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Yucca Valley,Ca
Posts: 2,496
On the gold dots i would buy the .452 250 gr, harvester crushed rib and mmp-24 sabots also.30-50 strokes of JB after you have cleaned it is also a good idea.it polishes the bore and removes the imperfections and also makes loading the tight T/C bored guns a lot easier.Ray
02-12-2011, 10:13 AM
#8
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
First, i usually wait until after my first range session until i use JBs or any bore polish. UNLESS the bore is really tight or rough and i don't have any sabots that fit well. I might also use it sparingly as just a cleaner on a new bore. Maybe 20 passes and then finish off with Hoppes, MX or a good non Teflon CLP.
After my first session or two and sabot inspections i usually give it about 50 passes if i feel it needed it. Out of all of mine only 2 have not had any polish because they were fine out of the box and i like the way they load/shoot.
I do use MX conditioner on all of them. Im still on the fence if its the best but it ranks VERY high imo. After about the 3rd shooting and cleaning sessions the difference has been very good to excellent. I mainly like it because i sometimes i forget to dry swab before popping a couple primers and ive not seen any really bad effects.
Rings and mounts
IIRC the Leos, T/Cs and Maxima are nearly identical. They might even be the same just re-branded. I use the older Durasight Steel QR rings and bases because the are very affordable. The bases seem to be just as well made as more expensive options. Ive got several sets on my Knights and they have been great. I got them for $10 directly from Durasight and they are Made in USA if that matters to you.
The new RedFields.
Ive got two of the 2x7x33s and im very happy with them. The glass is about as good as scopes in the $200-250 price range or better. They have a good amount of eye relief and are not too heavy. One of mine has survived a terrific beating from my GMB54 and many max loads that will rattle your teeth.
$30 for a complete QR set in STEEL is a STEAL IMO.
http://www.durasight.com/durasight/special-offers.html
The GoldDot 250gr IMO is a great all around bullet and fairly affordable. They have also been very accurate with a variety of powder charges. Everything from "youth" loads to 110gr have shot great for me. If you plan on shooting mostly 100gr+ loads i prefer the 300gr. After seeing Ron's 200yard "catch", i really feel its a great choice for some serious knock down power.
After my first session or two and sabot inspections i usually give it about 50 passes if i feel it needed it. Out of all of mine only 2 have not had any polish because they were fine out of the box and i like the way they load/shoot.
I do use MX conditioner on all of them. Im still on the fence if its the best but it ranks VERY high imo. After about the 3rd shooting and cleaning sessions the difference has been very good to excellent. I mainly like it because i sometimes i forget to dry swab before popping a couple primers and ive not seen any really bad effects.
Rings and mounts
IIRC the Leos, T/Cs and Maxima are nearly identical. They might even be the same just re-branded. I use the older Durasight Steel QR rings and bases because the are very affordable. The bases seem to be just as well made as more expensive options. Ive got several sets on my Knights and they have been great. I got them for $10 directly from Durasight and they are Made in USA if that matters to you.
The new RedFields.
Ive got two of the 2x7x33s and im very happy with them. The glass is about as good as scopes in the $200-250 price range or better. They have a good amount of eye relief and are not too heavy. One of mine has survived a terrific beating from my GMB54 and many max loads that will rattle your teeth.
$30 for a complete QR set in STEEL is a STEAL IMO.
http://www.durasight.com/durasight/special-offers.html
The GoldDot 250gr IMO is a great all around bullet and fairly affordable. They have also been very accurate with a variety of powder charges. Everything from "youth" loads to 110gr have shot great for me. If you plan on shooting mostly 100gr+ loads i prefer the 300gr. After seeing Ron's 200yard "catch", i really feel its a great choice for some serious knock down power.
Last edited by Gm54-120; 02-12-2011 at 10:18 AM.
02-12-2011, 11:16 AM
#9
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 21,193
Clean it like normal, getting all the packing material out. Then go shoot it. This will give you an idea of the bore tightness and any other things that you might notice you would like you change. You can always JB Bore Paste it. Although that Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner is some good stuff. Whether it made my rifles foul less or clean easier I will not swear to. But the rifles I have treated sure shoot nice, swab easy, and clean easy.
02-12-2011, 11:22 AM
#10
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Yucca Valley,Ca
Posts: 2,496
First, i usually wait until after my first range session until i use JBs or any bore polish. UNLESS the bore is really tight or rough and i don't have any sabots that fit well. I might also use it sparingly as just a cleaner on a new bore. Maybe 20 passes and then finish off with Hoppes, MX or a good non Teflon CLP.
After my first session or two and sabot inspections i usually give it about 50 passes if i feel it needed it. Out of all of mine only 2 have not had any polish because they were fine out of the box and i like the way they load/shoot.
I do use MX conditioner on all of them. Im still on the fence if its the best but it ranks VERY high imo. After about the 3rd shooting and cleaning sessions the difference has been very good to excellent. I mainly like it because i sometimes i forget to dry swab before popping a couple primers and ive not seen any really bad effects.
Rings and mounts
IIRC the Leos, T/Cs and Maxima are nearly identical. They might even be the same just re-branded. I use the older Durasight Steel QR rings and bases because the are very affordable. The bases seem to be just as well made as more expensive options. Ive got several sets on my Knights and they have been great. I got them for $10 directly from Durasight and they are Made in USA if that matters to you.
The new RedFields.
Ive got two of the 2x7x33s and im very happy with them. The glass is about as good as scopes in the $200-250 price range or better. They have a good amount of eye relief and are not too heavy. One of mine has survived a terrific beating from my GMB54 and many max loads that will rattle your teeth.
$30 for a complete QR set in STEEL is a STEAL IMO.
http://www.durasight.com/durasight/special-offers.html
The GoldDot 250gr IMO is a great all around bullet and fairly affordable. They have also been very accurate with a variety of powder charges. Everything from "youth" loads to 110gr have shot great for me. If you plan on shooting mostly 100gr+ loads i prefer the 300gr. After seeing Ron's 200yard "catch", i really feel its a great choice for some serious knock down power.
After my first session or two and sabot inspections i usually give it about 50 passes if i feel it needed it. Out of all of mine only 2 have not had any polish because they were fine out of the box and i like the way they load/shoot.
I do use MX conditioner on all of them. Im still on the fence if its the best but it ranks VERY high imo. After about the 3rd shooting and cleaning sessions the difference has been very good to excellent. I mainly like it because i sometimes i forget to dry swab before popping a couple primers and ive not seen any really bad effects.
Rings and mounts
IIRC the Leos, T/Cs and Maxima are nearly identical. They might even be the same just re-branded. I use the older Durasight Steel QR rings and bases because the are very affordable. The bases seem to be just as well made as more expensive options. Ive got several sets on my Knights and they have been great. I got them for $10 directly from Durasight and they are Made in USA if that matters to you.
The new RedFields.
Ive got two of the 2x7x33s and im very happy with them. The glass is about as good as scopes in the $200-250 price range or better. They have a good amount of eye relief and are not too heavy. One of mine has survived a terrific beating from my GMB54 and many max loads that will rattle your teeth.
$30 for a complete QR set in STEEL is a STEAL IMO.
http://www.durasight.com/durasight/special-offers.html
The GoldDot 250gr IMO is a great all around bullet and fairly affordable. They have also been very accurate with a variety of powder charges. Everything from "youth" loads to 110gr have shot great for me. If you plan on shooting mostly 100gr+ loads i prefer the 300gr. After seeing Ron's 200yard "catch", i really feel its a great choice for some serious knock down power.
Ray