T/C Triumph vs Bone Collector
08-13-2010, 11:40 AM
#11
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
Power belts are suitable for varmints only unless you plug the hollow point why pay that much for a sub standard bullet when you can get the FPB by Hornady which is a good bullet in all ways. And if you want to find the right size for your gun and pay the exorbitant price the Thor will do a good job to.
08-13-2010, 12:18 PM
#12
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 5
Maybe I'll grab a box or two of the FPBs. The main problem is PBs are the only non-sabot bullets widely available in stores. Bass Pro carries the Hornaday SST, which I don't understand because they are not legal for elk or deer in CO. I have used Hornaday Great Plains in the past, but they were difficult to load and didn't seem very aerodynamic. Maybe I have just been lucky in the past, but the PB seemed to make it through a rib without much of a problem. I am all for making sure that you take down an animal in 1 shot, so I don't want to come off hard headed, just saying haven't seen any evidence that using 295s would be problematic.
08-13-2010, 01:12 PM
#13
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 601
I own 2 Triumph's......Black on Black and Camo with silver WEATHERSHIELD BARREL. I love everything about these guns and with the price of the blk on blk thats the way I would go. If stainless was offered thats another story. I only have shot FPB'S out of mine a few times so I can't help you in that aspect. With saboted bullets 1.0" at 100 was my best with my limited abilities Overall a better muzzleloader than my ProHunter for the cost hands down. Stick with your own feelings towards the guns and good luck in your purchase.
Chuck
Chuck
08-13-2010, 01:20 PM
#14
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
lineman78
I do not use Power Belts for anything but it is my understanding that the biggest reason that a Power Belt will fail is because thay are shot to fast for their construction. Remember a Power Belt really is nothing more than an elongated round ball constructed from a very soft lead to allow the bullet to obturate to your bore. Even if you go with the copper plated PB's they are a very thin copper plate. It is my understanding that the Plats are a little more durable than the average PB.
Just thought and a suggestion - if you are going to spend that kind of money - I would highly suggest the Omega over the Triumph and it is available in real SS.
I am old so my thoughts are not always valid - but the break open action is a fad and with time and shooting will loose accuracy as the hinge wears.
I do not use Power Belts for anything but it is my understanding that the biggest reason that a Power Belt will fail is because thay are shot to fast for their construction. Remember a Power Belt really is nothing more than an elongated round ball constructed from a very soft lead to allow the bullet to obturate to your bore. Even if you go with the copper plated PB's they are a very thin copper plate. It is my understanding that the Plats are a little more durable than the average PB.
Just thought and a suggestion - if you are going to spend that kind of money - I would highly suggest the Omega over the Triumph and it is available in real SS.
I am old so my thoughts are not always valid - but the break open action is a fad and with time and shooting will loose accuracy as the hinge wears.
08-13-2010, 07:44 PM
#17
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
Not all agree with sabot loader on a Omega being better than a Triumph I am keeping my Triumph and selling my Omega. I like the Triumph better for quite a few reasons, first off it shoots better it likes heavier loads it is easy to cap in a hurry even with gloves on [which the Omega is not] I like the mechanism better it is more fun to tune, I have never heard of a bedding problem with a Triumph.
The only thing the Omega has over the Triumph in my opinion is that you can get it in SS If they ever come out with SS in a Triumph I will immediately order one.
The only thing the Omega has over the Triumph in my opinion is that you can get it in SS If they ever come out with SS in a Triumph I will immediately order one.
08-14-2010, 04:45 AM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Warren County NJ USA
Posts: 3,898
Regular Triumph "vs" the BC Version= Pure market gimmick BS. Your paying more for name of Bone Collector, and those stupid senseless gadgets, save yourself the money & get the regular Triumph, also don't buy from Bass Pro or Cabelas, buy from a smaller shop in your area, that is what I did, and got the Black Stock, weathershield barrel Triumph for $100 less then those bigger stores
08-14-2010, 06:51 AM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hayes, Va.
Posts: 2,332
I have no experience with the Triumph, but think the Encore in any configuration is a dog! I sometimes have very bad nightmares about this gun.
Now as to the PB's, I don't have much to say about them except that people try to over power them and they will shatter and have a tendency to not penetrate as advertised.
I shoot a Knight Vision and load the Hornady FPB bullet and am very impressed with the results. They are a little hard to get started, but once they start they load very smoothly. With the FPB I use Black Horn 209 powder. I have a great combination with this setup and am very pleased.
Now as to the PB's, I don't have much to say about them except that people try to over power them and they will shatter and have a tendency to not penetrate as advertised.
I shoot a Knight Vision and load the Hornady FPB bullet and am very impressed with the results. They are a little hard to get started, but once they start they load very smoothly. With the FPB I use Black Horn 209 powder. I have a great combination with this setup and am very pleased.