lemoyne

I tend to believe that a lot of the problems come from velocities out of the proper slot for the particular bullet. Some people like loads suited to the kids and use a bullet suited to a serious load, some just the opposite, thats the main reason I do my own testing. I am man sized and never have paid much attention to recoil so I load the load the gun shoots best and often the best load is not the first one you run into that shoots good if you run the powder ladder and there can be an other surprise about what load shoots best at 200 yds compared to 100yds. Leer

spaniel

I have stripped XTPs on rare occasions. The deer still died. Just what is your point?

I am sorry I ever thought it reasonable to assume relaying the findings of having shot 40-odd of these bullets into game animals had anything relevant to add to a theoretical discussion of what may or may not happen when shooting said bullet into an animal (complete with pics when available).

I will keep my mouth shut until I am able to educate myself as to how bullets will actually perform on game by shooting them into dirt piles.

Semisane

Now, now boys. Play nice.

Hey, I just thought of a solution. Each of you purchase a small hindquarter of beef. Shoot an XTP into it, freeze it immediately and ship it to me. I will examine each and render a definitive opinion.

Damn, I'm not just a peacemaker, I'm frickin BRILLIANT!

sabotloader

spaniel

There are a few real life game experiances in my thoughts also, but the biggest thing I have to offer is I am not trying to condemn the bullet(s) you are using. Shoot if they work for you shoot away. Heck, people think I am nuts for using a bullets that are designed to come apart as they pass through.

All my intentions were, was to show what I have experianced with Hornadys that I have tested and and relate experiances that I have observed when i was using Hornady's both in centerfire and ML. Again I add NOT ALL HORNADY"S SHOT performed the strip act - a majority of them did not. I just can not predict when one might.

I also have suggested that I believe there are better terminal performers out there for me. I am not trying to declare your bullets bad, shoot! you need to use what you have confidence in, as I do.

The only reason that I am considering the switch from Noslers is because of the progressing lead ban... that will rear it's ugly head again this year in some states as some medical professionals and politicians push it.

If you got em - shoot em

builder459

You wouldn't feel guilty about taking advantage of the situation lmao!

lemoyne

It also depends on what you use them for; I like the FTX for gong and Knockdown shooting and the Gold Dots and Lehigh for hunting. I even like the 245 PB for coyote hunting they really smear a coyote. If we all used the same thing some people would be out of a job. I used to use XTP's and still have about 500 of them 250 gr laying around and if I had a hard time getting bullets I would not even think twice about using them. Most bullets will do the job fine, some of us want the deer on the ground in a hurry some want that hole coming out the other side to be sure of a good blood trail. I think the most important thing is hitting them in the right place and getting at least enough penetration for a clean kill. I personally have never tried the copper bullets but its clear they will do a good job because a lot of people get good clean kills with them.
When we discuss bullet structure and what this one or that one did under certain circumstances its not a criticism of what some body uses; its just data that we are trying to understand and assimilate so that we can make better choices.
No one should feel that we are attacking their choice.

MountainDevil54

'An eat all dem boolet fragment?!!

Breechplug

Damn Semi, I had to go in the other room to stop from Laughing! You Kill Me!
(BP)

Breechplug

All I know is for the last 20 years, every Deer My Wife and I shot with a Hornady XTP Mag ended up in My Freezer and we ate real good!
(BP)

ronlaughlin

No need to wait for more knowledge before you choose your hunting bullet. Simply remember these simple axiom:

a. When hunting rocks and dirts, don't use xtp.

b. When hunting deer, xtp is OK.