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OregonHunter5

Right now for my Idaho season I am shooting 90 grains T7-3f in the GM-LRH shooting a 460 grain Bull Shop. Most of the DWB guy will tell you that 70 grain is more than enough...

cayugad

If your shooting deer, they're thin skinned and does not take a lot to penetrate them. Out to 250 yards, I PERSONALLY would be pushing all the powder I could and still be accurate. That is a long way out there for a muzzleloader. I never shot past 150 yards at a target.

sabotloader

OregonHunter5

I did not pick up on your high end of your anticipated range til Cayugad mentioned it.... Shoot!!! 250 yards with open sights is quite a poke unless you do a lot of practicing... Even if you could see and place the the sights on a target that far out the varibles that the bullet crosses in that distance can move the bullet 20-30 inches

OregonHunter5

i was thinking in that distance for all other hunts other than ML season here and with a leupold ultimate slam on the gun.thoughts?

omegasmoke

That distance with open sights is EXTREMLY difficult for anyone. If your planning on taking a long shot, you better try pushing that load as hard as you can until your accuracy begins to fail. Your'e going to get considerable drop at that range so I would suggest having your zero at 150yd minimum. Otherwise your holdover will be too high to take an ethical shot at that range. I have a hard time pulling the trigger over 100 yds or so with open sights. Although you never really clarified wether or not you would be using a scope.

omegasmoke

Now you did.

MountainDevil54

250 yards, open sights? Good luck at seeing a deer with open sights. At that range, you're sight is going to cover the entire deer, even with a 6 o'clock hold.

OregonHunter5

btw. i have a friend who goes to a buffalo shoot in montana every year. they shoot the sharps out to 780 yards, peep sights. how can they do that?

MountainDevil54

a buffalo stands 6 feet high at the shoulder. compare pictures of a buffalo and deer and you'll see how they can do it. Its like a geo metro VS a 1970s buick sitting out in the field.

sabotloader

OregonHunter5

The Sharps probably has a vernier sight on it also and bet they have done a good deal of practice...

The U-slam would certainly be the way to go at those long ranges - but if the scope was legal them their might be much better bullets availble to use a that distance rather than a full bore conical. Not the a lead freight train would not work...