oldsmellhound

I would use the 180 gold dots inside of 100 yards for deer no problem. Anywhere from 80 - 100 grains of T7 should work just fine. I'd probably avoid shoulder shots & aim for the "boiler room".

burntmuch

Shot 3 of the 180 GDs today. Went out behind the house. I shot into a pile of sand by my pond. 50 yards 70 grains t7 traditions sidelock. Fun little gun to shoot. I shot at 3 different targets. If I had to guess Id say a 3 inch group. The GDs were found in 5 inches of sand. they held together but mushroomed out completelyto the size of 1 inch or so. The lack of accuracy didnt bother me. I shot freehand on 1 knee. & these iron sights are pretty tuff for me. The pentitration did bother me. I was expecting better. I may get out later today & try a few with 60 grains. & Ill take my shooting sticks.

Semisane

Five inches of sand doesn't seem too bad to me. Sand makes apretty though penetration test.

sabotloader

burntmuch

70 grains T7 should maybe get you around 1700+ fps with that bullet.

Shooting into sand is a very tough medium and if they held together in that you have no worrys in an animal. Sand will accelerate the speed of the expansion so that in itself will slow the bullet down and limit penetration.

I really think for an less expensive bullet they a really very good. Just hope Speer amps up the available supply to us normal (well at least some of are normal) people.

burntmuch

I guess I was expecting more penetration. You guys got me wondering about this combo. Its a neat little gun. A little work on the sights & it would make a descent hunting rig.

burntmuch

All right Im going out to shoot a few morewith shooting sticks

burntmuch

60 grains of t7 shot 3 times. This time I put a piece of 2X10 behind the target. Using shooting sticks I got a 2 inch group 2 were touching with 1 flyer .thru the 2X10 & again 5 or 6 inches of pentitration. The bullets held up a little better. Didnt flatten out as much.

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