Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
#61
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RE: Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
ORIGINAL: MountainDevil54
100gr triple 7 loose with the 245 and a 50 yard shot i KNOW it didnt stay together. You could see what they do with a 90gr pyrodex rs charge and a sand bucket 50 yards away.
100gr triple 7 loose with the 245 and a 50 yard shot i KNOW it didnt stay together. You could see what they do with a 90gr pyrodex rs charge and a sand bucket 50 yards away.
use the heaviest one you can or close, like 295/348 in .50 cal.
in-lines I WOULD NEVER USE PB,flintlocks at medium speed, ONE GREAT BULLET TO USE.
NO RECOIL, LESS SMOKE, LESS NOISE,EASY TO LOAD AND VERY ACCURATE AND WILL OPEN UP AT MEDIUM CHARGES.
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RE: Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
inline,flinter,percussion. it doesnt matter what they are shot out of. The powder charge is what causes the bullet to fly out of the barrel. I do all of my bullet testings, 245-295-270 and 300gr in a cva mountain rifle and the bigger 348+ in a cabelas hawken.
Both the TC Omega and CVA Optima i had, shot the 295,348 and 405 with 80gr Pyrodex RS. I tried 90 and 100gr with the 405's and just about crapped myself. Not my kind of recoil!! Even the 348's hurt with 90gr. Recoil is not a comfortable thing to deal with out in the field.
Surprisingly the 275gr .45s can hold a stiffer charge than the 295gr 50cal Powerbelt.
Both the TC Omega and CVA Optima i had, shot the 295,348 and 405 with 80gr Pyrodex RS. I tried 90 and 100gr with the 405's and just about crapped myself. Not my kind of recoil!! Even the 348's hurt with 90gr. Recoil is not a comfortable thing to deal with out in the field.
Surprisingly the 275gr .45s can hold a stiffer charge than the 295gr 50cal Powerbelt.
#63
RE: Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
FG
These are the Power Punch Bullets that Doc shows on his web site...
Is this the bullet you are talking about? I has a copper tinted gas seal - it was added to clean the barrel as it traveled up the barrel... It is not plastic and it certainly is not an elongated round ball...
Here is the web site...
http://www.whitemuzzleloading.com/images/whiterifles/white_bullets.htm
These are the Power Punch Bullets that Doc shows on his web site...
Is this the bullet you are talking about? I has a copper tinted gas seal - it was added to clean the barrel as it traveled up the barrel... It is not plastic and it certainly is not an elongated round ball...
Here is the web site...
http://www.whitemuzzleloading.com/images/whiterifles/white_bullets.htm
#64
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RE: Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
no these had a baby blue gas check that reminded me of the powerbelt. Ive seen them before at the sportsmans guide in denver but that was 3-4 years ago.
#65
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RE: Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
When using 80 grn or less of powder, I go with a Bullshop or No Excuses conical.
Less then 50 cents each and devastating results from 5 to 150yds plus.
For higher charges, if slightly more recoil can be tolerated ( I never notice recoil when shooting in the field at game),I use the Nosler Partitions.
Again no limitations ( taken deer from 10yds to 170 and have yet to recover a bullet)
and cost the same or probably less then the PB's that seem to require a much narrower set of conditions.
JMO
Steve
Less then 50 cents each and devastating results from 5 to 150yds plus.
For higher charges, if slightly more recoil can be tolerated ( I never notice recoil when shooting in the field at game),I use the Nosler Partitions.
Again no limitations ( taken deer from 10yds to 170 and have yet to recover a bullet)
and cost the same or probably less then the PB's that seem to require a much narrower set of conditions.
JMO
Steve
#66
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RE: Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
ORIGINAL: MountainDevil54
inline,flinter,percussion. it doesnt matter what they are shot out of. The powder charge is what causes the bullet to fly out of the barrel. I do all of my bullet testings, 245-295-270 and 300gr in a cva mountain rifle and the bigger 348+ in a cabelas hawken.
Both the TC Omega and CVA Optima i had, shot the 295,348 and 405 with 80gr Pyrodex RS. I tried 90 and 100gr with the 405's and just about crapped myself. Not my kind of recoil!! Even the 348's hurt with 90gr. Recoil is not a comfortable thing to deal with out in the field.
Surprisingly the 275gr .45s can hold a stiffer charge than the 295gr 50cal Powerbelt.
inline,flinter,percussion. it doesnt matter what they are shot out of. The powder charge is what causes the bullet to fly out of the barrel. I do all of my bullet testings, 245-295-270 and 300gr in a cva mountain rifle and the bigger 348+ in a cabelas hawken.
Both the TC Omega and CVA Optima i had, shot the 295,348 and 405 with 80gr Pyrodex RS. I tried 90 and 100gr with the 405's and just about crapped myself. Not my kind of recoil!! Even the 348's hurt with 90gr. Recoil is not a comfortable thing to deal with out in the field.
Surprisingly the 275gr .45s can hold a stiffer charge than the 295gr 50cal Powerbelt.
that is why i like the 295 pb ,i can load it at 70/80 grs in my .50 cal flintlock and it will open nicely on a buck.
its great, no recoil, less smoke, less flinching,less noise,easy to load at 5 above with wind blowing and cold fingers,accurate and opens real good on buck under 100 yds which is all i shoot with open sights.
#69
RE: Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
I think Powerbelts can be great when used properly. As it's been said, you have to really watch how fast you push them. For most of the PB line, 80 grains of powder is about max (unless you're shooting a heavier grain Platinum).
My cousin over Christmas told me how he had shot a doe during gun season with a 245 grain PB and 150 grains of Pyrodex at a distance of 20 yards. He said the entrance hole was the size of a football and the bullet had literally expoded inside the ribcage. No pass-thru of course, but it did destroy the heart and drop the deer instantly. I guess he was happy with it - I sure wouldn't be.... what if you had an angled shot or had to shoot through bone??? You'd have a wounded deer that will never be recovered and die slowly.
My cousin over Christmas told me how he had shot a doe during gun season with a 245 grain PB and 150 grains of Pyrodex at a distance of 20 yards. He said the entrance hole was the size of a football and the bullet had literally expoded inside the ribcage. No pass-thru of course, but it did destroy the heart and drop the deer instantly. I guess he was happy with it - I sure wouldn't be.... what if you had an angled shot or had to shoot through bone??? You'd have a wounded deer that will never be recovered and die slowly.
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RE: Moving away from Powerbelt bullets; Need recommendations
like ROOSTER COGBURN said to TEXAN,too much gun..........
most hollow points will blow up at fast speeds.
i would never use PB with hollow point in a IN-LINE at anything over 80 grs as you said..
heaviest one is best also
most hollow points will blow up at fast speeds.
i would never use PB with hollow point in a IN-LINE at anything over 80 grs as you said..
heaviest one is best also