TC Hawken Questions- please help
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RE: TC Hawken Questions- please help
ORIGINAL: kirkll
Hey there guys....i haven't posted much on hunting net, i'm primarily an archery hunter and rookie bow builder. Ihang out on the Pirates of archery forum these days. mostly in the bowyers gallery...
But i pulled a really great muzzle loader elk tag this year, and i'm trying to take a crash course on getting my TC dialed in....i've been taught the basics of care and maintainance, loading, and have ran about a 100 round ball rounds through this thing at targets. but i'm trying to get more serious about my accuracy and what would be the best ammo to use for elk.
i've got a fewquestionsto ask if you guys don't mind helping a rookie out here....
first of all i'm trying to figure out what kind of riflings i have in the barrel before i choose which ammo to use. this is a Thonmpson Center side lock with the set trigger. the barrel measures from the muzzle to the cap nozzle 28.5 inches...there is no model number on it, just a serial number K53689
i was told by a retailer that the hawken model had a 1:48 barrel...i sure would like to confirm that somehow.
second thing i would like sugestions on would be type of ammo to use on elk. i'm in oregon and we cannot use sabots, buti can use anall lead bullet like the TC maxi-ball or Maxi Hunter....What would you folks recomend i use for maximum accuracy and killing power?....i picked up some 275 maxi hunter rounds the other day and haven't even tried them yet...i'm going to use Pyrodex RS for my loads....the 175 gr round ball will be fine for my deer hunting, but i thought a bit more lead would be nice for elk...
i've got a ton of other questions i could ask. but i need to get on the right track here first...
Any help would be appreciated......Thanks ....Kirk
Hey there guys....i haven't posted much on hunting net, i'm primarily an archery hunter and rookie bow builder. Ihang out on the Pirates of archery forum these days. mostly in the bowyers gallery...
But i pulled a really great muzzle loader elk tag this year, and i'm trying to take a crash course on getting my TC dialed in....i've been taught the basics of care and maintainance, loading, and have ran about a 100 round ball rounds through this thing at targets. but i'm trying to get more serious about my accuracy and what would be the best ammo to use for elk.
i've got a fewquestionsto ask if you guys don't mind helping a rookie out here....
first of all i'm trying to figure out what kind of riflings i have in the barrel before i choose which ammo to use. this is a Thonmpson Center side lock with the set trigger. the barrel measures from the muzzle to the cap nozzle 28.5 inches...there is no model number on it, just a serial number K53689
i was told by a retailer that the hawken model had a 1:48 barrel...i sure would like to confirm that somehow.
second thing i would like sugestions on would be type of ammo to use on elk. i'm in oregon and we cannot use sabots, buti can use anall lead bullet like the TC maxi-ball or Maxi Hunter....What would you folks recomend i use for maximum accuracy and killing power?....i picked up some 275 maxi hunter rounds the other day and haven't even tried them yet...i'm going to use Pyrodex RS for my loads....the 175 gr round ball will be fine for my deer hunting, but i thought a bit more lead would be nice for elk...
i've got a ton of other questions i could ask. but i need to get on the right track here first...
Any help would be appreciated......Thanks ....Kirk
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Chap Gleason
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RE: TC Hawken Questions- please help
ORIGINAL: kirkll
i've got a ton of other questions i could ask. but i need to get on the right track here first...
Any help would be appreciated......Thanks ....Kirk
i've got a ton of other questions i could ask. but i need to get on the right track here first...
Any help would be appreciated......Thanks ....Kirk
http://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com/mag-spark.html
and see if it is legal in Oregon, most states that have primitive weapons only season say "side-lock" or FL only (PA where I hunt for example is FL only), but make no restriction as to what the sidelock is igniting (musket cap or shot shell primer). This improvementwould give you a lot more "fire in the hole". You will need lots of practice, so allow for several outings to get comfortable with your gun.
Best Wishes,
Chap Gleason
Best Wishes,
Chap Gleason
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RE: TC Hawken Questions- please help
The T/C tang peep sight fits on the tang. You pull the two screws that hold the tang to the stock and those in turn hold the rear peep sight. I have one of them T/C tang peep sights. They will increase you accuracy, especially at longer ranges.
There are lots of front sights out there you can purchase. That front sight is on a dovetail.
And the bore buttons can make a big difference in accuracy with some bullets. Especially at long ranges.
There are lots of front sights out there you can purchase. That front sight is on a dovetail.
And the bore buttons can make a big difference in accuracy with some bullets. Especially at long ranges.
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RE: TC Hawken Questions- please help
kirkll
Each gun is different when it comes to shooting conical, personally I have had the best results fron felt wads I make my self with a plug cutter from my wood shop you will usually get the best results between 50 and 100gr quite often with Pyrodex often with P. I you have trouble getting good accuracy try putting a 29 gr by vol. of corn meal over the wad on top the powder I also put a greased wad over the corn meal to keep leading to a minium. Lee
Each gun is different when it comes to shooting conical, personally I have had the best results fron felt wads I make my self with a plug cutter from my wood shop you will usually get the best results between 50 and 100gr quite often with Pyrodex often with P. I you have trouble getting good accuracy try putting a 29 gr by vol. of corn meal over the wad on top the powder I also put a greased wad over the corn meal to keep leading to a minium. Lee
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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RE: TC Hawken Questions- please help
Well i'm on my way now....i did some deep cleaning with hot water and Murphy's oil soap on the Hawken,and built myself a new shooters bench. i puchaced some 370 gr TC maxi ball and tried a few rounds at 50 yards last night. i didn't care for the pre-lubed bullets to much as the lube itself was crumbling and falling to pieces as i tried to load... think i mat clean them up and lube them myself with TC bore butter today....
i have a fiber optic front sight pin i tried removing the fiber pin and shooting it that way...worked ok untill low light time of day...i think i may have to put the stock iron sight back on it and file it down some. the fiber optic pins are great for low light, but they are so big they cover up your dot at long distance...i gotta work the bugs out of that after i get my loads dialed in and shooting consistant.
here's a couple shots of my shooting bench....<a href="http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Black%20Powder%20Stuff/?action=view&current=Shootersbench005.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Black%20Powder%20Stuff/Shootersbench005.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
i have a fiber optic front sight pin i tried removing the fiber pin and shooting it that way...worked ok untill low light time of day...i think i may have to put the stock iron sight back on it and file it down some. the fiber optic pins are great for low light, but they are so big they cover up your dot at long distance...i gotta work the bugs out of that after i get my loads dialed in and shooting consistant.
here's a couple shots of my shooting bench....<a href="http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Black%20Powder%20Stuff/?action=view&current=Shootersbench005.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Black%20Powder%20Stuff/Shootersbench005.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>