Lets be honest with powder charges.
#1
Lets be honest with powder charges.
A friends friend says he shoots 150gr charges in his ML and gets great groups but couldn't put a figure on a 100yd group.
As sort of a poll I would like to know how stiff a charge you shoot in what cal.
Mine are 50cal T/C Hawkins 70gr., 50calT/C plains hunter 85gr., Remington 700 50 cal 80gr, and Remington 700 54cal 100gr.
These aremy best loads for the best groups with sabots and 230 to 300 grain bullets, except the Hawkins is a PRB.
As sort of a poll I would like to know how stiff a charge you shoot in what cal.
Mine are 50cal T/C Hawkins 70gr., 50calT/C plains hunter 85gr., Remington 700 50 cal 80gr, and Remington 700 54cal 100gr.
These aremy best loads for the best groups with sabots and 230 to 300 grain bullets, except the Hawkins is a PRB.
#2
RE: Lets be honest with powder charges.
Yooper
Renegade 50 cal with GM-LRH SS - 90 grains T7-3f - 460 grain Bullshop
Renegade 50 cal with GM-LRH Blue - as above
Renegade 50 cal with TC barrel - 80 grains T7-3f & BullShop
Remingtons 50 cal SS - 110 grains T7-2f
White 50 cal - 110 grains T7-2f
Omega 50 cal - 110 grains T7-2f
Knight 50 cal - 120 grains T7-2f
Others but fall in the same category as above
Renegade 50 cal with GM-LRH SS - 90 grains T7-3f - 460 grain Bullshop
Renegade 50 cal with GM-LRH Blue - as above
Renegade 50 cal with TC barrel - 80 grains T7-3f & BullShop
Remingtons 50 cal SS - 110 grains T7-2f
White 50 cal - 110 grains T7-2f
Omega 50 cal - 110 grains T7-2f
Knight 50 cal - 120 grains T7-2f
Others but fall in the same category as above
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
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RE: Lets be honest with powder charges.
ORIGINAL: alleyyooper
A friends friend says he shoots 150gr charges in his ML and gets great groups but couldn't put a figure on a 100yd group.
As sort of a poll I would like to know how stiff a charge you shoot in what cal.
Mine are 50cal T/C Hawkins 70gr., 50calT/C plains hunter 85gr., Remington 700 50 cal 80gr, and Remington 700 54cal 100gr.
These aremy best loads for the best groups with sabots and 230 to 300 grain bullets, except the Hawkins is a PRB.
A friends friend says he shoots 150gr charges in his ML and gets great groups but couldn't put a figure on a 100yd group.
As sort of a poll I would like to know how stiff a charge you shoot in what cal.
Mine are 50cal T/C Hawkins 70gr., 50calT/C plains hunter 85gr., Remington 700 50 cal 80gr, and Remington 700 54cal 100gr.
These aremy best loads for the best groups with sabots and 230 to 300 grain bullets, except the Hawkins is a PRB.
Knight Disc 100g 777 3f, 300g Nosler Partition HG, CR Sabot
TC Omega 100g 777 3f, 300g Nosler Partition HG, CR sabot
All shoot well between 90 and 110g of 777, heavy charges are for folks that have listen to the marketingpropaganda on speed and range not accuracy. I really don't think you get that much extra speed for the 150g charges,seems to me like it is only 200 fps extra, but boy do you loose in accuracy. Lotta folks don't shoot regularly and wanna just hunt 1 or 2 weeks and shoota 3" at 100 yard group, don't wannaplay with the rifle to get it dialed in perfectly for the bullet, sabot, powder and gun. Chap
#4
RE: Lets be honest with powder charges.
50 cal Knight Rolling Block with a 250 gr. Barnes expander on top of 110 gr. loose 3f Triple seven. It also does well with 90 gr. of 2f Triple Seven and 410 gr. Great plains conicals.
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Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
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RE: Lets be honest with powder charges.
.50 Lyman Mustang - 105 grains T-7 FFFg -300 grain Speer Gold Dot
.50 TC New Englander - 80 grains Pyrodex RS or GOEX FFFg -410 grain Hornady Great Plains
.58 Navy Arms Zouave - 70 grains Pyrodex RS or GOEX FFFg - Patched ball
.54 Lyman Great Plains - 95 grains GOEX FFFg - Patched ball
.50 TC New Englander - 80 grains Pyrodex RS or GOEX FFFg -410 grain Hornady Great Plains
.58 Navy Arms Zouave - 70 grains Pyrodex RS or GOEX FFFg - Patched ball
.54 Lyman Great Plains - 95 grains GOEX FFFg - Patched ball
#6
RE: Lets be honest with powder charges.
In the number of rifles that I shoot..
powder charges vary between 70 grains all the way to 120 grains of in loose powder from. Also the grades of powder change between rifles and projectiles. They range in calibers from 45 to 62 caliber, not counting the 12 gauge shotguns of course.
Some people do shoot 150 grains and they get good accuracy. Whether your rifle is one of them or you like to shoot that much, or need to for that matter is all a personal preference. Also consider the fact that what some people call "accurate", others call "getting there"...
powder charges vary between 70 grains all the way to 120 grains of in loose powder from. Also the grades of powder change between rifles and projectiles. They range in calibers from 45 to 62 caliber, not counting the 12 gauge shotguns of course.
Some people do shoot 150 grains and they get good accuracy. Whether your rifle is one of them or you like to shoot that much, or need to for that matter is all a personal preference. Also consider the fact that what some people call "accurate", others call "getting there"...
#7
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RE: Lets be honest with powder charges.
Great Plains PRB- 110 ffg goex
Traditions Kentucky PRB- 110 ffg goex "Those 2 rifles are powder hogs"
CVA Mountain Stalker 295 Powerbelt- 80 Pyrodex Select
CVA Bobcat 295 Powerbelt- 80 Pyrodex Select
CVA Hawken 295 Powerbelt- 90 Pyrodex Select
Cabelas Hawken 295/348 Powerbelt- 80 Pyrodex Select
.54 Smoothbore Musket PRB- 70 FFg Goex.
Now i must work on a load for the new Apex
Traditions Kentucky PRB- 110 ffg goex "Those 2 rifles are powder hogs"
CVA Mountain Stalker 295 Powerbelt- 80 Pyrodex Select
CVA Bobcat 295 Powerbelt- 80 Pyrodex Select
CVA Hawken 295 Powerbelt- 90 Pyrodex Select
Cabelas Hawken 295/348 Powerbelt- 80 Pyrodex Select
.54 Smoothbore Musket PRB- 70 FFg Goex.
Now i must work on a load for the new Apex
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
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RE: Lets be honest with powder charges.
My "stout" rifle,TC Omega Z5, groups good and shoots flat with 130gr RS + 250gr T/C Shockwave, also been shooting 240gr T/C Cheap Shots at the same powder charge with good accuracy. I like 90gr RS and 385gr hornady GP in 50 cal hawken.
#10
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Union City, Michigan
Posts: 231
RE: Lets be honest with powder charges.
I got these results if Feb under 2" with my Omega 290TMZ with 150 T7FF, 100grains were more accurate though. Under 1" . The only to so far when accuracy didn’t go bad with heavy charges is when I used 290-300 grain bullets.
I am not sure on how to post this but here is my post from Feb with heavy charges
2/17/2008 10:18:30 PM
Good results 150gr ff and Barnes 290TMZ
Good results 150gr ff and Remington PT