herman

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ok i was in the gun store today and was lookin at the tc encore 50cal and i loved the way it felt, any problems with this one or is it only the 45cal?

The 45 is the only one I had trouble getting to group at all.If you check out the pics below you can see what I liked about the 50 cal.There are several posts on this board and other boards about getting the 45 to shoot good.

http://www.hunting-pictures.com/memb...ght&encore.jpg

Underclocked

Herman, there is definite hope for your rifle. I happened to check the rifling on the replacement barrel I got from T/C quite a while back a few minutes ago. I'll be danged if it isn't 1:28&quot; twist. One of those &quot;assume&quot; things because I didn't think they had any such at the time.<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

herman

underclocked,that sounds like a good deal,have you tried it out yet?
I am hoping they send me a 1:28 and it shoots as good as the 50 cal does,I sent them some pics of the targets shot by the 50 cal.The fellow on PB was impressed with the 1:28 twists,Mine has been gone since and I got a post card saying they received it.How long did it take to get yours back?

http://www.hunting-pictures.com/memb...ght&encore.jpg

Underclocked

Package included rifle, box, manual, rear sights, Tasco 6X World Class, Leupold QR bases and rings, Bellm over-sized hinge pin, Bellm hammer extension, some PowerBelts, partial can of Cleanshot pellets, normal accessories, T/C Encore capper, and various cleaning components. Since I had sent my last Omega to Alaska Friday and still intend to sell or trade the Knight Mag Disc .50, I bought this Encore 209x50 in very slightly used condition

Did a trigger job which came out GREAT!, removed the front sight and added a filler screw, polished the bore with JB, turned the hammer extension to the left after taking some metal off its top and using aluminum black on it, worked on some gouges in the included Tasco 6X with the black then stored the Tasco, put on the Bushnell in the picture as it was already in rings - just had to sit it in the base, rubbed the stock a bit with an oil rag, and took a pic. (edited the background and lost the rear stud as well as made some rough edges while doing so).

Ready to shoot!
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Only briefly tested the new .45 barrel and the only sabots are tried are the heavy 350 grain PowerStars that you probably wouldn't like...

I posted that group before and it definitely shows vast improvement!!

Edited by - Underclocked on 02/02/2003 13:57:11

herman

Sharp looking rifle,looks like mine.Still waiting for t/c to return my 45 barrel.
What are you planning to shoot in the 50 cal big bullets also?I received some PB in 200 gr (dead center) and 195gr and 240 gr,I want to try in my 45 and 50 soon as we get some decent weather to shoot in.
I think you got a good deal.Counting scope,over sized pin,springs and triger job I have around $800 bucks not counting buying the 50 cal barrel in mine.Gonna have to quit buying guns they are getting too expensive.
Let us know how it shoots

http://www.hunting-pictures.com/memb...ght&encore.jpg

Underclocked

Thanks Herman, I will. Planning to start with some 300 grain Hornady XTPs and black Knight sabots riding on about 80 grains of FFg T7.

Might try some cast bullets later but I don't really have a good mold for the .50s yet.

herman

Got my Encore barrel back Monday took it to the range yesterday,checked the twist rate and it was 1:28,I think they have it right now.
Wasn' t trying to work out a load yet just wanted to shoot it and get the barrel smooth,had a target with a 6in circle at 50 yds,and a 10 in circle at 100 yds.Shot 6 different bullets and loads from 100 gr to 120 grs of Pyrodex,and cleanshot,every shot I took was inside the circles at 50 and 100 yds.
What I found out was that the barrel was very tight,shot the first load with the clean barrel,swabbed with spit patch turned over and run the patch down and out the barrel again,then couldn' t get the next bullet down the barrel,took the breech plug out,pushed the started bullet back out,cleaned the barrel,bullet went down ok.shot again used the spit patch again bullet got stuck again in the barrel wouldn' t go down had to remove again.but if I cleaned the barrel with cleaner
between shots the bullet would go down ok.Never had a rifle in any make with barrel that tight before.
Took it home cleaned good and gave it a good going over with JB' s, next time I shoot i am going to shoot some patched round balls to see if that helps also.
In my opionion if I was going to get the 209x45 I would make sure it has the newer 1 :28 twist.

Underclocked

Ditto on the tightness of my new barrel, Herman. Mine actually mics a little over .449 . Put the JB to mine also but haven' t shot it since. Need to get it and the .50 out and do some shooting but it' s about to start a 2 day rain.

herman

Underclocked,I was going to mic mine but couldn' t figure out how with the false muzzle,but after it gets broken in some I believe it will be as good as the 50 cal.
every bullet I shot yesterday at 100 yds would have killed a deer where as the 1:20 twist I couldn' t get any kind of groups at 50 yds little on a 100 yd shot.
Been thinking about shooting some patched round balls in it to see if it helps if the J B ' s don' t help.
Wished I knew what the diameter was really susposed to be,I checked the dia. of some T/C maxi-balls and got .456 but haven' t tried getting one of those down the barrel yet.Couldn' t check the dia of the Knight 45 because I sold it.
Checked one of T/C bullet and sabot and got .452, so if you got .449 no wonder it is hard to get down the barrel.Think it will be ok anyhow after it has been shot some.
It was easy to get down the barrel when barrel was clean but after one shot and 1 spit patch,I just couldn' t get a bullet down the barrel without beating it down.
will keep posted,someone else might have gotten the 45 cal.

Underclocked

Yep, they' ve tightened those babies up considerable in addition to the twist change. That Maxi-ball may mic .446 at the base ring but if you measure up on the top band it will be .45x . If you grease one up and run it through the bore you might be able to mic it where the flats impress the bullet. Run it in with the breech plug removed and then slowly push it back out from the breech.

I had the QLA cut off mine so it was a bit easier to measure.