Hornady's Velocity Ratings For XTPs
#11
RE: Hornady's Velocity Ratings For XTPs
What I don't get is how the xtp performs at speeds way above what hornady recommends. Take, for example, Savage shooters. I'm not using the hottest load, but I'm still pushing a 300 grain XTP 2200 fps. This is a factory recommended load. There are bunch of dead deer pictures on the net compliments of a 250 or 300 grain xtp being pushed out of a muzzle really fast (+2000 fps). These bullets sure do seem to outperform their 18-36 cents a piece pricetag.
#12
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Hornady's Velocity Ratings For XTPs
ORIGINAL: Semisane
Probably heavier jackets on the .44s, since they're made primarilyfor the .44 Magnum revolver.
The .45s are probably designed around the .45 acp for the lighter bullets and the .45 Colt for the heavier ones.
Those .44 calibers can be pushed harder... wonder why? More streamline maybe?
The .45s are probably designed around the .45 acp for the lighter bullets and the .45 Colt for the heavier ones.
#13
RE: Hornady's Velocity Ratings For XTPs
"might even be because a 240 grain .429 dia (44 cal) bullet has a considerably higher sectional density than a 240 grain .452 (45 cal) bullet."
Good point.
Good point.
#17
RE: Hornady's Velocity Ratings For XTPs
Also interesting is how that chart rates the 10mm (.40 cal) 200 grains XTP/HP. I have shot over 200 of these on the range so far, and of all the bullets that just seem to do their job, these are one of them. According to that chart, I am pushing them far to fast for them to be effective. I guess that's why I like to test my own. In fact I intend to deer hunt with them this year if the chance comes up. I'd like to see what they do.
Also I note the difference between the 240 & 300 grain. Rather interesting test results according to the chart again.
Also I note the difference between the 240 & 300 grain. Rather interesting test results according to the chart again.
#18
Spike
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RE: Hornady's Velocity Ratings For XTPs
Here is a link to the article from which this chart came from. It actually is favorable toward the XTPs, as am I. The author even states that Hornady underates the performance of the XTPs.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/underrated_hornady_XTP.htm
http://www.chuckhawks.com/underrated_hornady_XTP.htm
#19
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RE: Hornady's Velocity Ratings For XTPs
ORIGINAL: cayugad
Also interesting is how that chart rates the 10mm (.40 cal) 200 grains XTP/HP. I have shot over 200 of these on the range so far, and of all the bullets that just seem to do their job, these are one of them. According to that chart, I am pushing them far to fast for them to be effective. I guess that's why I like to test my own. In fact I intend to deer hunt with them this year if the chance comes up. I'd like to see what they do.
Also I note the difference between the 240 & 300 grain. Rather interesting test results according to the chart again.
Also interesting is how that chart rates the 10mm (.40 cal) 200 grains XTP/HP. I have shot over 200 of these on the range so far, and of all the bullets that just seem to do their job, these are one of them. According to that chart, I am pushing them far to fast for them to be effective. I guess that's why I like to test my own. In fact I intend to deer hunt with them this year if the chance comes up. I'd like to see what they do.
Also I note the difference between the 240 & 300 grain. Rather interesting test results according to the chart again.
#20
RE: Hornady's Velocity Ratings For XTPs
The charts tell us that the bullet will expand reliably at the lower velocity and will not normally come apart at the highervelocity, when fired fromaRIFLED BARREL.At 100 yards your bullet is not going to be traveling anywhere near muzzle velocity. These are pistol bullets and pistol bullets lose velocity very fast. Three yearsago a friend and i chronographed 240 grain XTP and 300 grain XTP bullets.A 240 grain XTP launched at 2,000 fps is traveling 1,600 fps at 100 yards. It really takes a lot of powder to get a 240 grain bullet up to a real 2,000 fpswhen fired from a normal inline muzzleloader: We could not do it with 150 grains of Pyrodex pellets. We were able to do it with Clean Shot pelletsboosted by five grains of Pyrodex RS.
Killed a lot ofdeer and dozens of hogs with 240 grain XTP bullets. Never had one get away. However, after doing a lot of target shooting at 200 yards and further, i concluded that the 250 grain Hornady SST was for me. Ballistically, the SST is a much better bullet. i choose my shots very carefully and will not hesitate to shoot a hog at 200 yards undergood light conditions, but not with an XTP bullet.
Killed a lot ofdeer and dozens of hogs with 240 grain XTP bullets. Never had one get away. However, after doing a lot of target shooting at 200 yards and further, i concluded that the 250 grain Hornady SST was for me. Ballistically, the SST is a much better bullet. i choose my shots very carefully and will not hesitate to shoot a hog at 200 yards undergood light conditions, but not with an XTP bullet.