Savage 10 ML
05-29-2007, 09:35 PM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.
05-30-2007, 06:51 AM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
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Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.
Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.
Did not realize this about this powder. Why is that?Savage list the 300g XTP and this powder in the manual. Thanks for your comment. Is this what is meant by the term "safe" in a previous post? Slow burning and not heavy bullets?
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05-30-2007, 08:14 AM
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DG75,
Did not realize this about this powder. Why is that?Savage list the 300g XTP and this powder in the manual. Thanks for your comment. Is this what is meant by the term "safe" in a previous post? Slow burning and not heavy bullets?
Chap
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Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.
Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.
Did not realize this about this powder. Why is that?Savage list the 300g XTP and this powder in the manual. Thanks for your comment. Is this what is meant by the term "safe" in a previous post? Slow burning and not heavy bullets?
Chap
05-30-2007, 08:51 AM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
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Yes, I have been on the site and printed some info to PDF.Why do you call it a "safe powder", what do you mean by that? Thanks Chap
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5744 is a good and very safe powder, but more of a starter powder than anything. I am not saying that you could not use and be completely satisfied, but there are other powders that will give better performance. I have been using the IMR 4759, 44-45 grns with MMP sabots and 250 SST's and getting moa @ 100 yards. I had heard that this load will get you about 2300 fps. I have also used IMR 4198 in the 66-68 grn range with the same bullet, sabot and subbase, but it has a stout kick and I was having sabot shredding in warmer, over 50 degree weather. This load will get you in the neighborhood of 2550 fps.
I posted the best link regarding Savage ML specific issues, questions guidance in case you have not already been hitting it, as you will get any and all questions answered there.
Good luck and have fun.
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage
5744 is a good and very safe powder, but more of a starter powder than anything. I am not saying that you could not use and be completely satisfied, but there are other powders that will give better performance. I have been using the IMR 4759, 44-45 grns with MMP sabots and 250 SST's and getting moa @ 100 yards. I had heard that this load will get you about 2300 fps. I have also used IMR 4198 in the 66-68 grn range with the same bullet, sabot and subbase, but it has a stout kick and I was having sabot shredding in warmer, over 50 degree weather. This load will get you in the neighborhood of 2550 fps.
I posted the best link regarding Savage ML specific issues, questions guidance in case you have not already been hitting it, as you will get any and all questions answered there.
Good luck and have fun.
http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage
05-30-2007, 10:12 AM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
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Chap: The XTP's should give you reasonable (<2") accuracy with 5744. My suggestion to experiment with different powders is assuming you're still having accuracy issues even after shooting the xtp's with MMP short black sabots. My gun will group them 1.5" with 44grains. 5744 is "safe" because it's a Savage recommended powder. Savage recommends also that the max weight for a saboted projectile is 300 grains.
Chap: The XTP's should give you reasonable (<2") accuracy with 5744. My suggestion to experiment with different powders is assuming you're still having accuracy issues even after shooting the xtp's with MMP short black sabots. My gun will group them 1.5" with 44grains. 5744 is "safe" because it's a Savage recommended powder. Savage recommends also that the max weight for a saboted projectile is 300 grains.
Thanks for your help. Chap
05-30-2007, 10:16 AM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
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What I mean by safe, is that you can use a lee dipper to approximate a load to shoot on range, without having to weigh charges beforehand. I would not do the same for most other powders, such as 4198.
What I mean by safe, is that you can use a lee dipper to approximate a load to shoot on range, without having to weigh charges beforehand. I would not do the same for most other powders, such as 4198.
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05-30-2007, 10:22 AM
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I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well.
05-30-2007, 10:27 AM
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I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well.
I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well.